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Old 08-07-2018, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ItnStln
Does this mean you can’t take pictures at cruise?
You can...with an actual camera. Not a cell phone camera. Semantics....some antics.....
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:06 AM
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You can...with an actual camera. Not a cell phone camera. Semantics....some antics.....
Interesting. Yeah, I think you're right. Actual camera seems like it WOULD be allowed above 10,000 (non-sterile)
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:19 AM
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Here is a link to the actual FAA Final Ruling.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-201...2014-02991.pdf

Something to note:
"The FAA clarifies that the prohibition in the final rule only extends to
crewmembers at a flightcrew member duty station; therefore, the prohibition does not apply to a person occupying the flight deck jumpseat."

Also, this applies to commercial operations. On non-121 legs their use may be legal as long as the use conforms to company policy. Remember, FOM's are FAA approved documents.

While not official FAA, here is another link.

https://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/new...-223255-1.html

Finally, I will add that I'm not your chief pilot or a chief pilot at all, nor a check airman. I'm just letting you know FAA policy. You're free to do with it as you please. As a matter of fact, if you are at a legacy carrier I encourage you to ignore this post, especially on a line check.
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:59 AM
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Don't forget a Selfie-Stick. We all need a Self-Stick while cruising through the Terminal.
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky
That guy is out of his seat, and therefore not at a flight crewmember duty station.
Electronic device rule doesn’t apply, but he does need a shave.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
Interesting. Yeah, I think you're right. Actual camera seems like it WOULD be allowed above 10,000 (non-sterile)
This is 100% correct, and always has been correct.

As long as it's an old-school camera without wireless capability.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
If you want to be strict in your interpretation? Yes.

If you have a line check or the FAA on board, I'd advise being strict in your interpretation.

Other than that, do what you want, but keep in mind if you post on social media a picture CLEARLY from the flight deck of a commercial airliner, you're documenting your violation of a regulation.
I have a friend who got fired years ago for exactly that. Posted a video on FB (he was PNF). Somebody called the FAA, who called the company. The guy who dimed him out was a crashpad roomate... the only motive for calling the feds which anyone could ever come up with was that the dude was junior to my buddy. All true, you can't make this stuff up.

Union got his job back after many months (loss of all seniority IIRC), but with that on his record, he had to pursue another career eventually.
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I don't know of any violations having occurred but apparently some FAA Safety Inspectors have raised an issue about flight crew members putting their cell phones in airplane mode rather than turning them off.
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Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky
The first thing I noticed was almost every hair in place at cruise. I want to know what he uses on his hair!
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
If you want to be strict in your interpretation? Yes.

If you have a line check or the FAA on board, I'd advise being strict in your interpretation.

Other than that, do what you want, but keep in mind if you post on social media a picture CLEARLY from the flight deck of a commercial airliner, you're documenting your violation of a regulation.

Just a thought. It's your career, you risk it however you like.
That’s what I figured. So apps like ForeFlight or a flight computer on your phone are unauthorized as well?
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