I will continue to beat the drum for Myflightbook.com

First of all...its free. Its versatile, the app supports android and iOS. The website is easy to navigate and the flight entry page is very customizeable.

There are a couple features available for subscription...i do the 25$ annual and I get nightly backups to my dropbox.

The developer is also responsive over his Facebook and email and is always open to suggestions and recommendations.

Did I mention that its free?

 

I use this too. Not really sure why anyone pays for a logbook.

 

As an example of how willing he is to accept requests..he and I worked for a couple days putting together a single rollup page so you can have all the totals you need to fill out AirlineApps, spirit, southwest, AA, and JetBlue's apps. Once we hammered out the design and function he had it active within a few hours.

 

I'll put in a vote for Safelog. I looked at LogTen Pro and MCCPIlotLog prior to that and entered several pages of my logbook in each as a test.

MCCPilotLog has a horrible interface based on old-school brain-damaged "let's make everything a dialog" UI design principles. That went out with Windows XP and the 1990s. Having been in business most of my life I also saw through the whole "lifetime" pricing model BS. That is no way to sustain a company. I might have considered it a valid option IF the application were open-source and I could take over development should the company collapse, but clearly that isn't the case.

LogTen Pro has a great UI and is a full-featured app in general, but it's restricted to the Apple ecosystem -- something I'm phasing out in my life -- and (like Apple) overpriced for what it does. I'm not paying $130+/yr for this service. If they can get it down to $50/yr and go multi-platform I'll reconsider it.

I'm now using Safelog mostly because it is reasonably priced and works well. I have several devices, both ios and android and they all sync to the Safelog's cloud. I also do some updates via a browser on a PC and I find that very handy, as I prefer to leverage large screens at home whenever possible.

 

+1 for Safelog. Coming from LBP, Safelog behaves better in Windows, and in my opinion, has a better UI and is “smarter” at figuring out what I want to enter. If anyone is interested I have a code to get you some free time if you buy a subscription.

 

Depending on who you fly for, there is an enterprise discount. For Mac+ipad+Iphone. It gets marked down to $100/year

 

Yes - I logged a support ticket on 04-10-2019. Still no joy.

I received a syrupy .pdf letter, which basically ask's me to "take one for the team"

Here it is:

Belgium, March 2019
Dear Pilot,
Thank you for being a loyal user of mccPILOTLOG. Did I ever tell you how the story began ?
I'm actually a little bit embarrassed… the local aviation authorities refused to renew my pilot
license because my logbook was a complete mess. I was grounded from my 737 duties for a
couple of days…
Being a lazy pilot, I preferred to using my programming skills over handwriting. Two days later
I had my new logbook printed with a couple of thousands of flights, using "some piece of
software" that I wrote over the weekend. Soon after, other pilots wanted to receive a copy.
That's how mccPILOTLOG got started.
At that time, it was standard practice to purchase, or sell, software on a Compact Disc. Pay
once and use forever. We actually shipped a few CD to our very first customers !
Today, similar to streaming music, software has become a service, which includes the use of
the program, all updates, cloud storage and helpdesk support. You do no longer purchase the
software. You pay for the service, when you need it and as long as you need it !
That "piece of software" turned into a company with 25 full-time developers and support
agents. But the fixed pricing model got outdated. To ensure the company's long term health,
we must now switch to service subscriptions, in line with the competition and global market
practices.
That puts me in a difficult situation, as I gave you my word with a lifetime use of mccPILOTLOG.
From a legal point of view, I do keep my word : You can continue to using mccPILOTLOG for
as long as you want. You continue to receiving our support whenever you need assistance.
mccPILOTLOG continues to run, including the expensive cloud servers that sync and backup
your flight data. We are only terminating further development and software updating.
However, in the future, your logbook may encounter issues when the surrounding operating
system (Mac, Windows, iOS, Android) is updated, or when your airline makes changes to the
crew rostering system. Therefore, we invite all pilots to switch to CrewLounge AERO today.


Your license is valid for mccPILOTLOG only. But, (for a limited time) we offer you the
opportunity to migrate your lifetime license to CrewLounge PILOTLOG through the
"grandfathering" program :
 Purchase a 3-year license for CrewLounge PILOTLOG
 Get a lifetime license (no subscriptions, no extra charges)
 Get an immediate discount of 10% (online payment)
 Get another 20% discount, as we pay for the VAT (EU residents)
 Receive a bonus 1-year free license for the calendar app CrewLounge CONNECT
Although many pilots happily migrate to CrewLounge PILOTLOG, we certainly also understand
your disappointment. Giving the new software away for free would undoubtedly make you
happy. But the satisfaction would be short lived, as our company would run into financial
problems in months, and your current logbook would stop running short after.
The switch-over from an outdated fixed pricing plan to the new subscription payment model,
causes our revenues to dropdown below the operating costs for the next 3 years. As founder
and business owner, it’s my responsibility to guarantee the company’s financial health,
without being greedy and always respecting your rights as a customer! We cannot bridge that
gap without your help! I truly believe that the grandfathering program, with all extra bonuses,
is a very honest and balanced deal. You can now migrate to CrewLounge PILOTLOG and be
excluded from subscriptions. Whereas all new customers, often junior pilots, are being
charged every year again…!
Allow me (exceptionally) to compare numbers with our main competitor LogTen Pro, who also
switched to subscriptions a few years ago :
 Pilots spent a total of 500 USD to receive all updates in the past 10 years
(mccPILOTLOG was 80 USD / 69 EUR, including all 2600 software changes)
 Nobody received a lifetime license when Coradine switched to subscriptions
(we offer a grandfathering program to migrate your lifetime license)
 Annual subscriptions for LogTen Pro are 300% more expensive (129.99 USD per year)
compared to our pricing (39.99 USD per year)
The price for migrating your lifetime license is less than what LogTen charges for 1 year!
I have no right and no intention to judge the competition. I consider Coradine LogTen Pro an
outstanding logbook and a respected company. I'm just highlighting facts and numbers.
I'm very grateful to you, for being part of the "lost-my-license-story". And I truly hope that
you will join us on our new journey : CrewLounge AERO !
Sincerely,
Pat
Captain Boeing 737 - 787
Business Owner MCC Europe-Asia
Author of the B737 MRG books
Coffee addict

 

Yes - I logged a support ticket on 4-10-2019.

I received a syrupy .pdf letter, which basically asks's me to "take one for the team."

Here it is:

Belgium, March 2019
Dear Pilot,
Thank you for being a loyal user of mccPILOTLOG. Did I ever tell you how the story began ?
I'm actually a little bit embarrassed… the local aviation authorities refused to renew my pilot
license because my logbook was a complete mess. I was grounded from my 737 duties for a
couple of days…
Being a lazy pilot, I preferred to using my programming skills over handwriting. Two days later
I had my new logbook printed with a couple of thousands of flights, using "some piece of
software" that I wrote over the weekend. Soon after, other pilots wanted to receive a copy.
That's how mccPILOTLOG got started.
At that time, it was standard practice to purchase, or sell, software on a Compact Disc. Pay
once and use forever. We actually shipped a few CD to our very first customers !
Today, similar to streaming music, software has become a service, which includes the use of
the program, all updates, cloud storage and helpdesk support. You do no longer purchase the
software. You pay for the service, when you need it and as long as you need it !
That "piece of software" turned into a company with 25 full-time developers and support
agents. But the fixed pricing model got outdated. To ensure the company's long term health,
we must now switch to service subscriptions, in line with the competition and global market
practices.
That puts me in a difficult situation, as I gave you my word with a lifetime use of mccPILOTLOG.
From a legal point of view, I do keep my word : You can continue to using mccPILOTLOG for
as long as you want. You continue to receiving our support whenever you need assistance.
mccPILOTLOG continues to run, including the expensive cloud servers that sync and backup
your flight data. We are only terminating further development and software updating.
However, in the future, your logbook may encounter issues when the surrounding operating
system (Mac, Windows, iOS, Android) is updated, or when your airline makes changes to the
crew rostering system. Therefore, we invite all pilots to switch to CrewLounge AERO today.

Your license is valid for mccPILOTLOG only. But, (for a limited time) we offer you the
opportunity to migrate your lifetime license to CrewLounge PILOTLOG through the
"grandfathering" program :
 Purchase a 3-year license for CrewLounge PILOTLOG
 Get a lifetime license (no subscriptions, no extra charges)
 Get an immediate discount of 10% (online payment)
 Get another 20% discount, as we pay for the VAT (EU residents)
 Receive a bonus 1-year free license for the calendar app CrewLounge CONNECT
Although many pilots happily migrate to CrewLounge PILOTLOG, we certainly also understand
your disappointment. Giving the new software away for free would undoubtedly make you
happy. But the satisfaction would be short lived, as our company would run into financial
problems in months, and your current logbook would stop running short after.
The switch-over from an outdated fixed pricing plan to the new subscription payment model,
causes our revenues to dropdown below the operating costs for the next 3 years. As founder
and business owner, it’s my responsibility to guarantee the company’s financial health,
without being greedy and always respecting your rights as a customer! We cannot bridge that
gap without your help! I truly believe that the grandfathering program, with all extra bonuses,
is a very honest and balanced deal. You can now migrate to CrewLounge PILOTLOG and be
excluded from subscriptions. Whereas all new customers, often junior pilots, are being
charged every year again…!
Allow me (exceptionally) to compare numbers with our main competitor LogTen Pro, who also
switched to subscriptions a few years ago :
 Pilots spent a total of 500 USD to receive all updates in the past 10 years
(mccPILOTLOG was 80 USD / 69 EUR, including all 2600 software changes)
 Nobody received a lifetime license when Coradine switched to subscriptions
(we offer a grandfathering program to migrate your lifetime license)
 Annual subscriptions for LogTen Pro are 300% more expensive (129.99 USD per year)
compared to our pricing (39.99 USD per year)
The price for migrating your lifetime license is less than what LogTen charges for 1 year!
I have no right and no intention to judge the competition. I consider Coradine LogTen Pro an
outstanding logbook and a respected company. I'm just highlighting facts and numbers.
I'm very grateful to you, for being part of the "lost-my-license-story". And I truly hope that
you will join us on our new journey : CrewLounge AERO !
Sincerely,
Pat
Captain Boeing 737 - 787
Business Owner MCC Europe-Asia
Author of the B737 MRG books
Coffee addict

 

Speaking as someone who has been in the embedded software business over 25 years, he makes a valid point, i.e. I don't disagree with his assessment regarding sustainability in the software industry and subscriptions as a solution to that problem.

But what he should have done is simply open-sourced MCCPilotLog and then either established "community" and "enterprise" editions (the latter being subject to a subscription) based on that source OR just left the source online at github so others could continue to work on the project and started a completely new closed-source product.

Had he taken this route he would have protected the interests of those who bought the product expecting a true lifetime of service. But all he's done is lock people into a dead product and ****ed everyone off. Seems to me this guy should stick to flying airplanes and leave the business and software engineering disciplines to the professionals.

 

Wanted to add my 2 cents on the latest shenanigans regarding mccPILOTLOG. I too received a reply to my support ticket telling me that mccPILOTLOG would no longer be supported and that I would be grandfathered in to transition to CrewLounge PILOTLOG for the low cost of just three years of subscription.

I am obviously not thrilled at the prospect of having to transition to a subscription service but I was told that I could continue to use mccPILOTLOG. What they didn't tell me is that the automatic import features for my company are no longer being supported.

However what I find most frustrating about the whole experience is that the ability to import data from files in a CSV format has been intentionally disabled with the message:
This means that current versions of mccPILOTLOG have been intentionally downgraded in an attempt to force people to transition to the new software.

So in summary, the lifetime purchase of my software got me three years of needlessly complex logbook interface at the end of which my version was intentionally downgraded in a software update.

Anyone looking for information on CrewLounge PILOTLOG, be warned. These are the business practices you can look forward to.