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Old 01-24-2019 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bh539
I agree which is why I don't understand your point. We both agree the TSA serves no real purpose other than just being there, so what does it matter how sharp the workers are or if they're getting paid or not?
Because the large public perception that they no longer care about their jobs makes aviation a more attractive target.

The bigger threat is increasingly distracted ATC as this drags on.
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Old 01-24-2019 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bh539
I agree which is why I don't understand your point. We both agree the TSA serves no real purpose other than just being there, so what does it matter how sharp the workers are or if they're getting paid or not?

Because not enough staff = closed checkpoints. Closed checkpoints = reduced (or eliminated) access to airside. This will inhibit traveling, and deter passengers. You know, the people who pay us.

What no one is mentioning is how this is gutting federal law enforcement ... investigations stalling and informants being lost because there are no funds. Oh wait, perhaps we can privatize law enforcement too...
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Old 01-24-2019 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by majorpilot
Because not enough staff = closed checkpoints. Closed checkpoints = reduced (or eliminated) access to airside. This will inhibit traveling, and deter passengers. You know, the people who pay us.

What no one is mentioning is how this is gutting federal law enforcement ... investigations stalling and informants being lost because there are no funds. Oh wait, perhaps we can privatize law enforcement too...
That's all fantasy. The longest line in the country a few days ago was 41 minutes at Dallas LUV. They have that long of a line every day. Nothing has changed.
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Old 01-27-2019 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by wildcat1
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/articles/news/the-government-shutdown-is-endangering-airline-pilots.html

This is such b.s. Does anyone really think that pilots, mechanics, the TSA, FAA or ATC aren't doing their job professionally because their pay is delayed? Seriously?!
Yes, ask the Colgan Air 3407 pilots.

TSA are making pre-Colgan crash regional pilot pay, aka less than a McDonald’s employee.

You start to make ‘comfortable’ pay at ATC after 2 years, depending on facility assignment and qualifications. However, just because you make good money, doesn’t mean you’re saving it. Most people live paycheck to paycheck nowadays.

There is nothing bull about this article. It’s a fact. When you don’t get paid, it’s slave labor. Nobody loves their job that much to show up or work at full performance when no money is coming in and the mortgage, utilities and credit score isn’t frozen with the paycheck...
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Old 01-27-2019 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
This is what happens when an entire industry is over regulated and dependent upon the government.
LOL because corporations are known to put the best interests of the public over their profit.....
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Old 01-27-2019 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stabapch
LOL because corporations are known to put the best interests of the public over their profit.....
They don't tend to keep customers if they don't provide a good product/service.
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Old 01-27-2019 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
They don't tend to keep customers if they don't provide a good product/service.
That really has nothing to do with what he just said.

Corporations exist to make a profit, and not to serve the public good. Labor, the public, and the environment are ripe for exploitation whenever profit is the primary motivation of behavior.

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Old 01-28-2019 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PontiusPilot
Corporations exist to make a profit, and not to serve the public good.
You only make a profit when you serve others.
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Old 01-28-2019 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
You only make a profit when you serve others.

Bayer and Thyssen-Krupp made quite a profit in the 40’s....
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Old 01-28-2019 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
Bayer and Thyssen-Krupp made quite a profit in the 40’s....
Union Carbide did pretty well in the 80s, too...
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