Piedmont vs. PSA
02-14-2019 | 02:56 PM
#51
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 564
Likes: 0
If your only geographic constraint is live in the Northeast for $65k a year you might as well just go to Endeavor and be a FO. You have to be on the 4th year CA pay scale at PDT to make more per hour than a Endeavor FOs are able to make.
You have to be a 10 year Captain at PDT to make what and Endeavor CA makes as soon as they upgrade. Put another way a Piedmont pilot would just hit the flow flow before they enjoyed a full year of pay parity with Endeavor Captain first year pay.
You have to be a 10 year Captain at PDT to make what and Endeavor CA makes as soon as they upgrade. Put another way a Piedmont pilot would just hit the flow flow before they enjoyed a full year of pay parity with Endeavor Captain first year pay.
02-14-2019 | 06:09 PM
#52
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,928
Likes: 98
I am at PSA and I am enjoying my time here. PHL is a small base at the moment in terms of the flying ratio to crew memeber a based there. But I have a feeling that will change as new 900s come online to replace the first batch of 200s that are schedules to get retired.
There is room for improvement, and with the leadership of the Union changed out, I have a feeling things will improve here as well.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
There is room for improvement, and with the leadership of the Union changed out, I have a feeling things will improve here as well.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
02-15-2019 | 03:10 AM
#53
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 182
Likes: 3
Im am nearing the end of my tenure here at piedmont. This year, unless schedules will improve, jan and feb, I credited about 80 hours a month. At my pay rate that is 5600 dollars and will only have 11 days off a month.
If you can live on the northeast with a 65k year a job and grind out a minimum 5 years as a captain here until you flow, then piedmont is where you want to be. Expect 50 to 60 hours block a month.
Im hoping the improvements in April do make a difference.
If you can live on the northeast with a 65k year a job and grind out a minimum 5 years as a captain here until you flow, then piedmont is where you want to be. Expect 50 to 60 hours block a month.
Im hoping the improvements in April do make a difference.
02-15-2019 | 05:36 AM
#54
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 1
...Jesus is that after taxes?? I’m at psa and with 6 months as fo & 6 as Capt (3rd yr pay) I’m closer to 68k, and that’s with 12-14 off a month. What happened to piedmont’s 2-300% pay? Cause I ran into guys in the crew room with lots of disposable income and no time to spend it.
02-15-2019 | 05:58 AM
#55
Line Holder
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
From: On the Line
...Jesus is that after taxes?? I’m at psa and with 6 months as fo & 6 as Capt (3rd yr pay) I’m closer to 68k, and that’s with 12-14 off a month. What happened to piedmont’s 2-300% pay? Cause I ran into guys in the crew room with lots of disposable income and no time to spend it.
It is actually rounding up sort of...
02-15-2019 | 06:09 AM
#56
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 564
Likes: 0
Most of my FOs made more money than me last year...
The golden handcuffs of the flow are a curse this last year here.
02-15-2019 | 09:06 AM
#57
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,244
Likes: 0
If you want to fly clapped out Eagle 145's force transferred to a carrier that is transitioning from props, then go PDT. If you want to fly for a carrier that voted concessions to secure new flying and airplanes at the expense of another ALPA carrier and the rest of the regional industry, then PSA.
Obviously, pick something in base to avoid commuting, but that's what you're going into.
Obviously, pick something in base to avoid commuting, but that's what you're going into.
02-15-2019 | 01:19 PM
#59
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
In any event what the other side of the coin failed to see in the matter, even though a "concessionary for them" contract was signed it was literally - sign this agreement or they will shut the doors tomorrow - and that was already decided before the town hall meeting. It's easy for someone who is not going to lose their job to say "stand strong". This was no idle threat either if that yes vote did not happen it was already decided that the airline would cease to exist by management at US Airways/American. Of course everyone will say it was just a threat and we shouldn't have caved in but there are multiple reliable sources that it would have been shut down.
As you said though, completely different airline now.
02-15-2019 | 05:35 PM
#60
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 182
Likes: 3
They're not all gone. I flew with a couple out of the Dayton base. This is the story I got.
In any event what the other side of the coin failed to see in the matter, even though a "concessionary for them" contract was signed it was literally - sign this agreement or they will shut the doors tomorrow - and that was already decided before the town hall meeting. It's easy for someone who is not going to lose their job to say "stand strong". This was no idle threat either if that yes vote did not happen it was already decided that the airline would cease to exist by management at US Airways/American. Of course everyone will say it was just a threat and we shouldn't have caved in but there are multiple reliable sources that it would have been shut down.
As you said though, completely different airline now.
In any event what the other side of the coin failed to see in the matter, even though a "concessionary for them" contract was signed it was literally - sign this agreement or they will shut the doors tomorrow - and that was already decided before the town hall meeting. It's easy for someone who is not going to lose their job to say "stand strong". This was no idle threat either if that yes vote did not happen it was already decided that the airline would cease to exist by management at US Airways/American. Of course everyone will say it was just a threat and we shouldn't have caved in but there are multiple reliable sources that it would have been shut down.
As you said though, completely different airline now.
100% this... they forget the fact at first with the 175s, aa told them what the final offer was. Soooo they sent the airframes to compass. Psa shot down the contracts initially for the 900s, and on the third and final offer American said “do it or we will liquidate PSA over a 4 week period as you’re holding up the merger”... as told to me by former chief pilots who have since flowed.
But the guys at psa at the time were supposed to say no as it was an “idle threat” even though American had proved it wasn’t, and lose their jobs so everyone else could hope for a few more $$$ in their pocket. 🙄
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
