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Old 02-08-2019, 01:53 PM
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military guys with zero 121, that’s not consistent, it’s not a stepping stone, it’s luck of the draw
Yeah, so unfair for military pilots
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Old 02-08-2019, 02:13 PM
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How would you know?

Let’s see you don’t get shot at in the 121 world for beginners or yank/bank the plane. The point I was trying to make us you are new to this type of flying.

Don’t come into the 121 world with “I am a mil pilot” attitude. It will get you nowhere and don’t think you are just here th check a box. There are plenty of mil pilots who are still at a regional after a year or two.

Remember aviation is an extremely small community.
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Old 02-08-2019, 02:26 PM
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If you don’t like it, why don’t you work for main line instead?
Here's the deal... that's a super loaded question at any regional. A lot of folks have tried. For whatever reason, it didn't happen, and it's not necessarily because they lack the qualities of a good mainline pilot.

If you asked the question innocently, then fine, that's an honest mistake. You're clearly military, and some folks are going to take that question as you having "that military attitude." If you keep pushing back, then that image will be reinforced, correct or not.

If you asked the question to get under someone's skin, then that's not cool at all. That's a good way to isolate yourself, particularly if you carry that attitude to the line. Isolated is not an optimal state in a career where networking can go a long way.
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Old 02-08-2019, 02:37 PM
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Yeah, so unfair for military pilots
If you’re gonna quote me, don’t cut it up to make it fit your argument.....

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Old 02-08-2019, 08:37 PM
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Many pilots at the regionals “volunteered” for service... This is a small community, sure hope you don’t find yourself on the raw end of a deal with that attitude...
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flynd94 View Post
Let’s see you don’t get shot at in the 121 world for beginners or yank/bank the plane. The point I was trying to make us you are new to this type of flying.

Don’t come into the 121 world with “I am a mil pilot” attitude. It will get you nowhere and don’t think you are just here th check a box. There are plenty of mil pilots who are still at a regional after a year or two.

Remember aviation is an extremely small community.
From our class of 31, we had 4 checking event failures, all of them were military guys.
They won't be at a major in anywhere near 1-2 years.
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From our class of 31, we had 4 checking event failures, all of them were military guys.
They won't be at a major in anywhere near 1-2 years.
That actually sounds like there might be a CKA or two with a bias against military pilots. Checking events are supposed to be completely impartial, but human nature is what it is. There will always be certain individuals with a chip on their shoulder.
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Old 02-09-2019, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem View Post
Many pilots at the regionals “volunteered” for service... This is a small community, sure hope you don’t find yourself on the raw end of a deal with that attitude...

^^^^ this and they weren’t all multi-zippered sun gods
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Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem View Post
Many pilots at the regionals “volunteered” for service... This is a small community, sure hope you don’t find yourself on the raw end of a deal with that attitude...
The attitude adjustment should come from the posters here who think military pilots are lucky, or that it's unfair they get hired straight to major airlines with no regional experience. They act like military pilots haven't paid their dues, and are getting a hand-out.

My response to that attitude is, you go try it yourself and see how easy it is. 1) They signed up for it. 2) They qualified to fly 3) passed, and 4) had a successful time thereafter. If you didn't, then don't complain about the people who did. If it's such an easy route, why not do it yourself instead of complaining about it?

"I had # of failures in my class, and they were all military!" Do you think maybe there's a reason they're training at a regional airline? Why don't you include all the guys across the industry, not just your anecdotal experience from a regional. Do all the military guys at Fedex, UPS Southwest, American, Delta, and United fail their training too?

"You have an attitude problem" Why, because I'm pointing out the loser mindset that complains about how "they think we should be happy to work for 1/3 the pay" and that "it's luck of the draw!"

I commonly see a person complaining about their low pay, or that they can't get hired by a major due to bad luck, and then in another thread they brag about how they "Get paid to not fly LOL" or "I only work 10 days per month at my regional LOL #pilotLife" . It's hypocritical, and that person thinks they deserve to do the same thing at at a major airline pay scale. Good luck with that attitude!

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Originally Posted by watch View Post
The attitude adjustment should come from the posters here who think military pilots are lucky, or that it's unfair they get hired straight to major airlines with no regional experience. They act like military pilots haven't paid their dues, and are getting a hand-out.

My response to that attitude is, you go try it yourself and see how easy it is. 1) They signed up for it. 2) They qualified and passed.

"I had # of failures in my class, and they were all military!" Really? Were they fixed wing pilots?

"I know guys that have been in the regional circuit for 1-2 years, be careful it could be you" who cares - this is unsolicited advice and it has nothing to do with this thread.
this guy is a troll right? Can we all agree to that and keep talking about Mesa.
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