Can a regional run without long-term pilots
03-01-2019 | 05:09 AM
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First leg of my IOE (DFW to DRO) he says he'll fly it because it's a high altitude airport. He proceeds to land about half way down the runway and bounces it 3 times, had to use max reverse and braking. Scared the **** out of me. He then misinterpreted radio calls twice and insisted he was right, forcing me to confirm with ATC. He was wrong both times.
He then had the nerve to tell me that he "Didn't think I was getting it." Thank God I finished my IOE with another senior LCA who was competent and gave me great marks.
03-01-2019 | 05:39 AM
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Gone are the days of the ogre captains who thought the FO was just there to work the flaps, gear and radio and to shut up about any and all decisions. I actually had one of these A-holes tell me " Don't make any radio calls unless I tell you to," after I told ATC that I had the traffic ahead in sight that we were following for the visual.
03-01-2019 | 09:31 AM
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Good for you. That's what crew communication and CRM are supposed to be. You've got a great attitude about this also and it may save you from an accident or incident one day.
Gone are the days of the ogre captains who thought the FO was just there to work the flaps, gear and radio and to shut up about any and all decisions. I actually had one of these A-holes tell me " Don't make any radio calls unless I tell you to," after I told ATC that I had the traffic ahead in sight that we were following for the visual.
Gone are the days of the ogre captains who thought the FO was just there to work the flaps, gear and radio and to shut up about any and all decisions. I actually had one of these A-holes tell me " Don't make any radio calls unless I tell you to," after I told ATC that I had the traffic ahead in sight that we were following for the visual.
I try to give the guys/gals I am flying with the chance to verify they are ok with being cleared for a visual by asking " do you want me to call him in sight"....not the biggest item in CRM but it is something to reflect on.
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03-02-2019 | 08:28 PM
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While I don't know the tone or the general atmosphere leading up to the example you give, it probably is a good idea to check with the pilot flying before calling traffic in sight in which you know will be followed by a "cleared visual approach..."
I try to give the guys/gals I am flying with the chance to verify they are ok with being cleared for a visual by asking " do you want me to call him in sight"....not the biggest item in CRM but it is something to reflect on.
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I try to give the guys/gals I am flying with the chance to verify they are ok with being cleared for a visual by asking " do you want me to call him in sight"....not the biggest item in CRM but it is something to reflect on.
for what it's worth
30 seconds later, I said to the captain, "I've got the Southwest in sight right there on final", pointed at it and made the radio call.
For him to tell me to ask him before making a radio call is bull****. It was a clear day and no reason for not shooting the visual.
If he was ticked about me calling traffic in sight, he should have said something to me after I pointed out the traffic to him instead of "Okay".
03-03-2019 | 08:57 AM
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I always confirm with my FO's, if they are flying, before I confirm field in sight or traffic in sight. If you were my FO I would kindly ask you to confirm with me first, I too would like to see that traffic even if you already have them visually. It's respectful for one, your keeping the guy flying in positive SA.
03-03-2019 | 11:01 AM
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For him to tell me to ask him before making a radio call is bull****. It was a clear day and no reason for not shooting the visual.
If he was ticked about me calling traffic in sight, he should have said something to me after I pointed out the traffic to him instead of "Okay".
If he was ticked about me calling traffic in sight, he should have said something to me after I pointed out the traffic to him instead of "Okay".
I've flown with CAs that said things that seemed off, or not logical, or whatever but I've always asked them about it once we were at the gate. In each and every case, they had a bit of information I did not and a reason for doing/asking whatever it was they did. I learned something in each instance.
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