Can a regional run without long-term pilots
#51
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I think it has the potential not to be. Look at the FAA mandated positions for a 121 carrier. Some of those are pretty restrictive and if someone leaves from one of those from a carrier with a junior pilot group, this could cause some issues.
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#53
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Most if not all JCBAs will set a limit for what if any sim instruction can be outsource (scope, badically) as well as any pay differential, increased guarantee, etc. At my shop, all checking events must be performed by a seniority list pilot and most sim instruction is also done by seniority list instructors. LCA will never, ever be outsourced.
#54
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#55
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while a different approach i heard the FAA was considering allowing LCA's to stay past 65 to just do line checks. let under 65 guys do ioe. also could allow sim guys to be over 65
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#57
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Depends on the airline. Some, probably most of the better majors, have limits on outsourcing mainly to ensure quality, relevant training by people who know the system at that airline (vice some guy with a bunch of slowtation time reading from (and mostly ignoring) a script (which he doesn't agree with despite no 121 line experience).
#58
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This whole thread is completely backwards. Take a look at XJT. Jam packed with lifers, and the problems it causes arent going away no matter what. You can’t have a log jam that prevents movement and expect to attract new talent. THAT is the model that’s unsustainable. As for the thread drift aspect.....I spent most of my life being pretty overweight, yet pretty bright and motivated. I never got the results in life that I felt I deserved and worked for. Then I focused heavily on running and lifting and completely changed my whole appproach to life. Outlook improved, personal relationships improved, the way people treat you improves, all because of how you perceive yourself and how you conduct yourself due to a new level of discipline. It transcends everything. So yes....it’s not universal, but to say that it doesn’t equate, isn’t correct.
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As for the thread drift aspect.....I spent most of my life being pretty overweight, yet pretty bright and motivated. I never got the results in life that I felt I deserved and worked for. Then I focused heavily on running and lifting and completely changed my whole appproach to life. Outlook improved, personal relationships improved, the way people treat you improves, all because of how you perceive yourself and how you conduct yourself due to a new level of discipline. It transcends everything. So yes....it’s not universal, but to say that it doesn’t equate, isn’t correct.
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One of the most surprising things to me, transitioning from engineering to the airlines, is that pilots only need to be "adequate". There is no reward or recognition for holding a heading +/- one degree instead of the +/- ten degrees, for example.
The pilots who push, nonetheless, for +/- one degree are the ones I want to fly with. In my brief and junior experience, those are also the ones that attract attention from major airlines, LCA or not (mostly not).
YMMV, of course.
The pilots who push, nonetheless, for +/- one degree are the ones I want to fly with. In my brief and junior experience, those are also the ones that attract attention from major airlines, LCA or not (mostly not).
YMMV, of course.
If minimum wasn’t good enough, it wouldn’t be a score.
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