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Old 02-25-2019 | 04:36 PM
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Where do you want to live?

If you don't care, then OO.
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Old 02-25-2019 | 05:51 PM
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If you want to live and fly east of the Mississippi River, YX is your company. If you live or want to fly west of the Mississippi River. OO is the place to go. Don’t commute cross country if you can avoid it. That’s the biggest factor that will destroy QOL faster than anything.
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Old 02-25-2019 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
THIS^^^^

You literally can not. You won’t be through your training in one month, more likely two and a half. Then the max you can possibly average is 83 hours a month, and that’s after you finish IOE. 1000/12= 83.33.

But you’ll be sitting Reserve somewhere, lucky if you fly 60 hours a month the first 2-3 months. And then they won’t upgrade you even at 1000 hours unless there is a vacancy.
This thread has been helpful. I knew I needed 1000 hours to be able to upgrade, but I hadn't thought about how long that would take. So even though there's the one guy that had a quick upgrade, it's most likely that its about 2 years to upgrade at either airline? In that case if upgrade is comparable, I should go wherever I won't have to commute? That seems to all make sense.
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Old 02-25-2019 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Where do you want to live?

If you don't care, then OO.
Why? Republic has better pay and better work rules as well as block or better. The only benefit is Skywest can likely get him/her in class sooner.
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Old 02-25-2019 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LUPilot
This thread has been helpful. I knew I needed 1000 hours to be able to upgrade, but I hadn't thought about how long that would take. So even though there's the one guy that had a quick upgrade, it's most likely that its about 2 years to upgrade at either airline? In that case if upgrade is comparable, I should go wherever I won't have to commute? That seems to all make sense.
Absolutely. The only other factor is it looks like OO can get you in class about 6 months sooner than YX if you interviewed today. That's a pretty big deal.
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Old 02-25-2019 | 07:09 PM
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Can you live in base? Both have similar work rules. Avoiding a commute should be your goal.
OOs biggest problem is their block rules which are horrible and costs their pilots a lot of money. Block or better at YX means you are going to be guaranteed the scheduled block, or if you go over you get paid for that too. And that is for each leg.
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Old 02-25-2019 | 07:44 PM
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I couldn't tell where you live from your posts. I looked at both airlines as well. One thing people who are pro OO won't tell you is that you won't get a west coast base for a while from what I can tell. However, if your there for a while you will get one, YX you never will. So for me comparing the two there were a few things that made me decide on YX; E170/175 only fleet, no junior manning (which can be big if you commute), having a real union, and growth potential (which may or may not ever happen, the 100 E175 order may just be a recruiting tool). The biggest thing for me though came down to company culture, YX gave me a much better feeling that I would fit in. YX wasn't really on my radar but I gave them a chance and every interaction I had was great and I have not been disappointed. Nobody can really answer the question for you, we all have different things that make an airline the right choice.
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Old 02-25-2019 | 08:17 PM
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Unless you actually DESIRE to move from MCI, go with Republic. They have a base at MCI and even if you can’t hold it initially (not sure of base seniority at Republic) commuting on company aircraft is always easier. Don’t get me wrong, if you have a burning desire for Detroit, well....better you than me, I guess.

How soon will you actually have the numbers to get hired? If you can apply six months before then they can probably hold the CJO that long.
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Old 02-25-2019 | 09:02 PM
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I'm from the MCI area, but I go to school in Southwest Virginia. I'm not tied down to any geographic location after school. I just want to live cheap so that I can pay off student loans quickly. I still have a while until I can realistically get a class (probably March 2020), but I like to stay current on the various airlines and see how they change. These have been my top two for a while now.
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Old 02-25-2019 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
OOs biggest problem is their block rules which are horrible and costs their pilots a lot of money. Block or better at YX means you are going to be guaranteed the scheduled block, or if you go over you get paid for that too. And that is for each leg.
Everyone quotes this but 99.9% of the time it was never an issue for me.
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