I don't believe people think the issue is that they are taking all the jobs, that was a very poor mischaracterization of the common complaint by said poster. The issue is that they are held to a much lower standard to a comparable white male to get the job. As much as you may want to bury your head into the sand and deny deny deny, we all know it is the truth.

 

Was a long time ago, but I wanted to go to Ozark because all my friends were there and it was a moving carnival. Home most nights.

 

I'm not denying anything, I said it was a BS

But it's also not the reason that *most* are not getting called/hired.

 

Just a little addition, for clarity.

 

It’s definately personal choice for almost all of them. If you’re a 50+ something, living in Base doing day trips home with your family almost every night making $120-$150 a year with 15+ off at home, do you really want to start over at the bottom of a seniority list, on probation, living in a crashpad again, working the worst schedules again, and not breaking even money wise for at least three years. Then a few years later when schedules get better you upgrade back into crashpads and reserve.

The lost decade trapped a lot of guys at the regionals. There are regionals with direct flow through agreements where they do not even apply for the major job, they log into the website and check a box to flow. Yet there are a few hundred - for example - at Envoy who choose not to flow. For them it’s a QOL issue mostly.

I’m sure there are countless other reasons. Assuming they are there because they can’t leave is a big mistake. Most just don’t want to.

 

This a post of mine from another thread, but it applies here also.

Well, there's nothing I can do about my age. Barring that, it would be nice to have a clearer understanding of why and what you are lacking in their profiles.

Hypothetical here. You're a 5500 TT, 2000 TPIC regional pilot, 40ish, have some volunteer time on your resume, clean record with no criminal or driving problems, and can't get an interview. They won't tell you why you are being excluded from their hiring pool and you're left to the guesses of the paid application services as to why you're not viable. Basically, there's no feedback from the majors to let you know what you need to do to be considered. It would be very nice if they took the time in your "TBNT" email to tell you, "Unfortunately, you don't have X to be competitive at this point".

Basically, tell me what I'm lacking, don't just say TBNT. Tell me what I need to do to become competitive, please.

Hell, SkyWest did that for me. The recruiter called me up after a couple of email exchanges and told me, "Hey, my recruiters who are pilots told me to tell you to possibly get a couple months of part 135 time to get current again and we'd be happy to give you an interview afterwards." I appreciate that. They told me what they needed me to do to get an interview.

Now Republic and Endeavor, it was a simple email that basically said "TBNT".

 

This here is the truth.

Just like when I was an FE and the new female FO was bragging about her upcoming interview with old United, while flying with a great CA who was a former B-52 commander who couldn't get an interview with them. Tell me, who was more qualified and deserved the job?

He told me when she was doing a preflight, "If she rubs that damn United interview in my face again, please stop me from choking her." Lol

 

Great post and great points.

Thanks for educating me on this. Cheers.

 

Anyone who thinks it would take 3 years to break even financially, even at an LCC, can't do math. Now add in the retirement and it ain't even close.

 

I think you are slowly realizing, that your experience is stale and pretty much worthless by now. That's why you're struggling to even get hired by a regional. Don't expect 1000 fresh hours suddenly will make you a prime candidate for majors.