Regional lifers. Why are they stuck?
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Dude, where are you getting this from?
I got "TBNT" emails from Republic and Endeavor like everyone else apparently.
I interviewed with G7 for a Near-DEC position and when they told me I would be required to upgrade in 3 months, I told them I couldn't promise them that. Should I have lied to them?
As far as the majors, I've said numerous times here that my most realistic chance is getting on with a LCC/ULCC after a couple years at a regional.
You've been very fair to me and given me some solid advice on here, and I appreciate it, but you've misunderstood my expectations. For me to make it to a major at my age after the long layoff would be a minor miracle. But I'm going to try anyway.
Hell, at this point in my life and the way my flying career and oil & gas career (laid off twice) has gone, being a lifer at a regional is an upgrade.
Cheers dera, no offense taken.
I got "TBNT" emails from Republic and Endeavor like everyone else apparently.
I interviewed with G7 for a Near-DEC position and when they told me I would be required to upgrade in 3 months, I told them I couldn't promise them that. Should I have lied to them?
As far as the majors, I've said numerous times here that my most realistic chance is getting on with a LCC/ULCC after a couple years at a regional.
You've been very fair to me and given me some solid advice on here, and I appreciate it, but you've misunderstood my expectations. For me to make it to a major at my age after the long layoff would be a minor miracle. But I'm going to try anyway.
Hell, at this point in my life and the way my flying career and oil & gas career (laid off twice) has gone, being a lifer at a regional is an upgrade.
Cheers dera, no offense taken.
This will change soon anyway, just as it did last year, when most of the "pool" candidates go elsewhere.
A year ago, Endeavor was saying "no", and then in a few months, they started hiring like crazy when they realized their pool went elsewhere.
Anyway - I was referring to your earlier posts, where you did say anyone with 1000TPIC should be competitive and that you're not going to wait for a year to upgrade. I think you've changed your opinion since that though so we do agree on that.
The reason why I bring up corporate is, that you can get much, much better QOL faster at them than at any airline when you have to commute anyway. Most corporate gigs will pay for your ticket, instead of having to deadhead on your own time.
I don't think you understand how soul-crushing commuting to junior reserve is. And I know you know I mean no offense by any of these posts.
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I've basically come to the realization that I should not consider a DEC or Near-DEC position because of my extended layoff from flying and the high risk of a training failure.
If they had a "guaranteed" flow, I might consider it.
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At his age, he would have 10 years at AA (which means NB CA, or a good QOL WB FO), and travel benefits for life.
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Republic and Endeavor are sending an email to what they consider "qualified" candidates saying "we are full until xxxmber, but we would like to interview you" - a friend of mine got his yesterday. So no, they don't say TBNT to everyone.
This will change soon anyway, just as it did last year, when most of the "pool" candidates go elsewhere.
A year ago, Endeavor was saying "no", and then in a few months, they started hiring like crazy when they realized their pool went elsewhere.
Anyway - I was referring to your earlier posts, where you did say anyone with 1000TPIC should be competitive and that you're not going to wait for a year to upgrade. I think you've changed your opinion since that though so we do agree on that.
The reason why I bring up corporate is, that you can get much, much better QOL faster at them than at any airline when you have to commute anyway. Most corporate gigs will pay for your ticket, instead of having to deadhead on your own time.
I don't think you understand how soul-crushing commuting to junior reserve is. And I know you know I mean no offense by any of these posts.
This will change soon anyway, just as it did last year, when most of the "pool" candidates go elsewhere.
A year ago, Endeavor was saying "no", and then in a few months, they started hiring like crazy when they realized their pool went elsewhere.
Anyway - I was referring to your earlier posts, where you did say anyone with 1000TPIC should be competitive and that you're not going to wait for a year to upgrade. I think you've changed your opinion since that though so we do agree on that.
The reason why I bring up corporate is, that you can get much, much better QOL faster at them than at any airline when you have to commute anyway. Most corporate gigs will pay for your ticket, instead of having to deadhead on your own time.
I don't think you understand how soul-crushing commuting to junior reserve is. And I know you know I mean no offense by any of these posts.
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Reserve sucks even when you live in base. Commuting to reserve sucks even more.
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Yeah, AA will be the hardest hit by retirements in the next 10 years.
01/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 637
01/01/2020 - 12/31/2020 772
01/01/2021 - 12/31/2021 840
01/01/2022 - 12/31/2022 861
01/01/2023 - 12/31/2023 957
01/01/2024 - 12/31/2024 932
01/01/2025 - 12/31/2025 951
01/01/2026 - 12/31/2026 908
01/01/2027 - 12/31/2027 770
01/01/2028 - 12/31/2028 676
Over 8300 retirements from AA in the next 10 years.
01/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 637
01/01/2020 - 12/31/2020 772
01/01/2021 - 12/31/2021 840
01/01/2022 - 12/31/2022 861
01/01/2023 - 12/31/2023 957
01/01/2024 - 12/31/2024 932
01/01/2025 - 12/31/2025 951
01/01/2026 - 12/31/2026 908
01/01/2027 - 12/31/2027 770
01/01/2028 - 12/31/2028 676
Over 8300 retirements from AA in the next 10 years.
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Yes. If you can't sit reserve at home (which you can't) - it will destroy your soul. 2 hour callout so you have to fly in for a block that starts at 4AM (which means the night before) - you have to either get a hotel room, or a crashpad, sit there all day, and do nothing. And for a 5 day block, you'll be there flying the scraps lineholders don't want to fly "hey, we have a 30 minute flight for you from IAH to CRP with a 5 hour sit, then deadhead back" (or when someone calls in sick which means you got lucky).
Reserve sucks even when you live in base. Commuting to reserve sucks even more.
Reserve sucks even when you live in base. Commuting to reserve sucks even more.
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