Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2803563)

It’s an LCC, and his question was for flow to a major.
That’s
AA, Delta, United, Fedex, UPS (all global airlines)

LCC
Southwest (just got ETOPS, an almost major, kinda in the middle)
JetBlue
Spirit
Frontier
Allegiant
Sun Country

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2809299)

Edit: skipped a few pages and didn't see this had been talked about....




Nope, it isn't.

There are a few carriers that self identify as LCC/ULCC but that no bearing on their status as a major, and the same goes for "global" (whatever that means). There are legacy carriers (Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Hawaiian Airlines and United Airlines) based on interstate routes before deregulation, but again, no bearing on "major"

This is the real definition of "major":
"The United States Department of Transportation defines a major carrier or major airline carrier as a U.S.-based airline that posts more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year, grouped accordingly as "Group III". (wikipedia)

These are the major airlines:
Passenger:
Alaska Airlines
Allegiant Air
American Airlines
Delta Air Lines
Frontier Airlines
Hawaiian Airlines
JetBlue
Southwest Airlines
Spirit Airlines
United Airlines

Regional passenger
Envoy Air (subsidiary of American Airlines Group)
Republic Airlines (subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings)
SkyWest Airlines (subsidiary of SkyWest, Inc.)

Freight
Atlas Air
FedEx Express
Polar Air Cargo
UPS Airlines

So yes, if you work for SkyWest, you work for a major...
Probably time for better definitions or we need to use other words:
Big 6/Big4 (AA/UA/DL/WN+FDX/UPS)
Group2 (AL/JB/HA)
Group3 (HK/G4/F9)

Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2809507)

Kalitta should be listed as a major then, believed it did a billion in revenue.

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2809299)

Edit: skipped a few pages and didn't see this had been talked about....




Nope, it isn't.

There are a few carriers that self identify as LCC/ULCC but that no bearing on their status as a major, and the same goes for "global" (whatever that means). There are legacy carriers (Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Hawaiian Airlines and United Airlines) based on interstate routes before deregulation, but again, no bearing on "major"

This is the real definition of "major":
"The United States Department of Transportation defines a major carrier or major airline carrier as a U.S.-based airline that posts more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year, grouped accordingly as "Group III". (wikipedia)

These are the major airlines:
Passenger:
Alaska Airlines
Allegiant Air
American Airlines
Delta Air Lines
Frontier Airlines
Hawaiian Airlines
JetBlue
Southwest Airlines
Spirit Airlines
United Airlines

Regional passenger
Envoy Air (subsidiary of American Airlines Group)
Republic Airlines (subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings)
SkyWest Airlines (subsidiary of SkyWest, Inc.)

Freight
Atlas Air
FedEx Express
Polar Air Cargo
UPS Airlines

So yes, if you work for SkyWest, you work for a major...
Probably time for better definitions or we need to use other words:
Big 6/Big4 (AA/UA/DL/WN+FDX/UPS)
Group2 (AL/JB/HA)
Group3 (HK/G4/F9)

Originally Posted by gripngrab (Post 2809540)

And uh, shouldn't envoy be in the major category?

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2809299)

Edit: skipped a few pages and didn't see this had been talked about....



There are a few carriers that self identify as LCC/ULCC but that no bearing on their status as a major, and the same goes for "global" (whatever that means). There are legacy carriers (Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Hawaiian Airlines and United Airlines) based on interstate routes before deregulation, but again, no bearing on "major"

This is the real definition of "major":
"The United States Department of Transportation defines a major carrier or major airline carrier as a U.S.-based airline that posts more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year, grouped accordingly as "Group III". (wikipedia)

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..............

So yes, if you work for SkyWest, you work for a major...
Probably time for better definitions or we need to use other words:
Big 6/Big4 (AA/UA/DL/WN+FDX/UPS)
Group2 (AL/JB/HA)
Group3 (HK/G4/F9)

Originally Posted by gripngrab (Post 2809540)

You will have to excuse cujo. He is a know it all washed up envoy/via air guy who likes to be the one "in the know" on everything and share just a few details with you.

Originally Posted by gripngrab (Post 2809540)

And uh, shouldn't envoy be in the major category?