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4V14T0R 04-16-2019 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2803887)
The federal government definition of a major is by revenue, X billion $.



The industry itself considers majors to operate at least some NB aircraft, sell tickets, and operate under their own brand.



Legacies did interstate air service prior to deregulation. They use a hub and spoke model, to one degree or another.



Most regionals are actually FFD, flying in some legacies paint. There are few small branded commuters left.



The APC airline profiles reflect the "industry standard" definitions. We don't try to distinguish between national, LCC, ULCC as that is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.



Thanks, I guess? I’m not sure if you were just adding on or what. I was responding to someone who said LCCs weren’t majors.


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OpMidClimax 04-16-2019 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2803909)
Agreed. If it were just revenue, many ACMI carriers would be listed as major airlines.

Likewise, simply flying the same size aircraft does not a major airline make.

All of the legacy/major airlines are global airlines.

An LCC that does a few Mexico, South America, or similar destinations is not a global major airline

We have
legacy/major
National / LCC
Regional
ACMI (can’t say cargo, since there are passenger only ACMI)

A Frontier, Spirit, Allegiant, Sun Country and the rest of the National LCC’s are not legacy or major airlines.

An example. People still run to leave a Frontier, Allegiant or Spirit when a Delta, United or American calls....
they just aren’t the same category carrier.

Anyone with 5 years seniority at frontier JetBlue spirit or allegiant would be very difficult to leave and stay all over... your salary is just too much to give it up.

UncreativeUser 04-16-2019 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2803783)
Because history



Historically looks better than any guaranteed interview to me. Plus I still apply just like everyone else, so idk why the flow gets hates on when it surely gets people in and doesn’t prevent people from going anywhere else anyways


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word302 04-16-2019 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2804009)
Historically looks better than any guaranteed interview to me. Plus I still apply just like everyone else, so idk why the flow gets hates on when it surely gets people in and doesn’t prevent people from going anywhere else anyways


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Well you said it perfectly, it gets people in. It's nothing but a recruiting tool. It's why they still pay like garbage.

Fit4Doody 04-16-2019 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by C37AFE (Post 2803506)
Then why listen to the mechanic He never flew the plane....

If the mechanics flew the planes then their maintenance would probably be alot better

Cujo665 04-16-2019 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2803954)
Meh. Pretty hard to find a Spirit pilot with plans to leave or even apps out.

Not as hard as finding a United pilot applying to Spirit....

Cujo665 04-16-2019 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by OpMidClimax (Post 2803997)
Anyone with 5 years seniority at frontier JetBlue spirit or allegiant would be very difficult to leave and stay all over... your salary is just too much to give it up.

Then they are older or not looking at total career earnings. Not to mention airline size, and equipment, base and global trip variety.

JohnBurke 04-16-2019 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Will JK (Post 2802871)
Hi everyone! Long time reader first time poster. I'm a student at a college with many regional airlines visiting campus to recruit pilots. Every recruiter I talk to has the ability to make their airline sound like paradise, with crazy benefits and amazing company culture. They promise quick upgrade times, industry leading bonuses, and flow to a major. How do I know when to trust these recruiters, as I feel they are just feeding me blatant lies and not giving the whole picture.
Thanks!

If you can't research it for yourself, you really don't belong in a cockpit.

Meow1215 04-17-2019 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2804187)
If you can't research it for yourself, you really don't belong in a cockpit.

Isn’t that what he/she is doing by seeking advice from people who have already done that?

IDrive175 04-17-2019 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2804187)
If you can't research it for yourself, you really don't belong in a cockpit.

One of the most important things to do when researching what airline to work for is getting objective opinions from people who are already there. If you can’t offer a little CRM to someone like that, maybe it’s you who doesn’t belong in a cockpit.


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