Originally Posted by Strykerinf (Post 2803306)

You’re basically saying that a private should tell a General how to do their job.. let’s see how that would play out. Not trying to argue, debate, or even defend anyone. I am just saying not all of us lie to people.

Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2803398)

To the OP, one of the most important things you need to learn and quickly - there is no pilot shortage, there is however a pay shortage.

Don’t let anybody rook you into thinking there is a pilot shortage or that their will be one. There will always been more ATPs than desirable ATP jobs. Been hearing for 30 years, “it’s coming”, “just around the corner”, “this year”. No, there is no pilot shortage. If the pay and QOL are good, that airline has no issues hiring and retaining. If it’s crap with crap work rules - they cannot staff it.

Go somewhere:
1. You can live in domicile
2. Stand being there for up to 5 years
3. Stable flying contracts

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2803368)

A private is 18-19 years old, and trained to maneuver and employ a weapon. He probably has absolutely no insight whatsoever to offer a general.

The general has decades of experience at every level of the military, and insight and experience into all the OTHER things which are required for military operations and the broader security objectives of his nation. He is also educated, with typically advanced degrees, at least one of which will involve geo-politics, strategy, history, etc. Oh, yeah and he fought in the trenches with a bunch of privates when he was a LT. So he already knows. He just needs to make sure he's in tune with the current realities of the front-line troops, because things can change over time, and in different circumstances. But he probably doesn't need advice from a teenager.

"Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics"

Originally Posted by Erj135dude (Post 2803441)

I must admit that for the longest time I was a believer, pilot shortage was a thing. And maybe there are not as many as we think, but overall is a pay shortage, period. Profession rocks, but to be able to make it..... God damn!.

Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2803554)

I made almost 90k (not including per diem) as a first year FO at my regional and we’ve barely grown our list by a dozen people since I got hired. There’s a pilot shortage.

Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2802933)

I've been hearing about this rumor for awhile. Is it really happening this time?:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2803045)

It's a major. Certainly not a top tier one, but their last contract was a substantial improvement.

And it is a place where you can make $110K a year as a second year FO while buffing your resume to attract a job offer from where you really want to be. And if you never get the call, you'll be making $250k a year or better when you eventually retire. Can't say that about many regionals....

Originally Posted by Erj135dude (Post 2803441)

I must admit that for the longest time I was a believer, pilot shortage was a thing. And maybe there are not as many as we think, but overall is a pay shortage, period. Profession rocks, but to be able to make it..... God damn!.