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highfarfast 06-06-2019 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by ESQ702 (Post 2832834)
I remember talking to a friend of mine who is a dentist. He said he absolutely hated his physiology class in college - totally loathed it. However, he really wanted to be a dentist. The comment I remember from him was that he wasn't going to let that class stand in the way of what he wanted to do.

Getting the degree for a good flying job isn't any different in my opinion. Does a degree make someone a good pilot? No. But it's a hoop to jump through for a goal. If I didn't have a degree I'd be grabbing one as cheap and fast as I could in a subject I'm reasonably interested in. Check that box and move on to other issues in your career pursuits...

I don’t know why this is such a hard concept. If the job you want requires one, get one. End of discussion.

BigZ 06-06-2019 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2833072)
I don’t know why this is such a hard concept. If the job you want requires one, get one. End of discussion.

It's because the quality of education, just like the quality of consumer electronics before it, went down the drain when it was deemed that everyone should have it.
Besides, a BS in BS comes with a considerable price tag attached in most cases. It is only natural to rebel against a faulty system.

SoFloFlyer 06-06-2019 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2833105)
It's because the quality of education, just like the quality of consumer electronics before it, went down the drain when it was deemed that everyone should have it.
Besides, a BS in BS comes with a considerable price tag attached in most cases. It is only natural to rebel against a faulty system.

I get why people feel the need to rebel, but don’t. Recruiters from mainline have all stated that they don’t have a pilot shortage. So if you want that cushy mainline job, don’t fight town hall (you’ll lose every time), just get the piece of paper.

I just transferred to Liberty U to finish up my degree online. Thousands of dollars is a small price to pay when you think of a multi million dollar career. Enroll, get it done, check the box. That’s all there is to it.

05Duramax 06-07-2019 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2833105)
It's because the quality of education, just like the quality of consumer electronics before it, went down the drain when it was deemed that everyone should have it.
Besides, a BS in BS comes with a considerable price tag attached in most cases. It is only natural to rebel against a faulty system.

I'm really not sure where this idea, shared by many on here, comes from? Unless it's exclusively held by people who don't have a degree and use it as some poor excuse. I'm curious as to what evidence you have that the quality of higher education has gone "down the drain"?

The other thing that blows me away is the complaint about cost, you can easily get a BS degree at a pretty good state school for the price of a car. I hear less complaints that a diesel pickup costs $60,000 than the costs of a college degree that can give you a return on your investment.

LowerLoon185 06-07-2019 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by 05Duramax (Post 2833280)
I'm really not sure where this idea, shared by many on here, comes from? Unless it's exclusively held by people who don't have a degree and use it as some poor excuse. I'm curious as to what evidence you have that the quality of higher education has gone "down the drain"?

The other thing that blows me away is the complaint about cost, you can easily get a BS degree at a pretty good state school for the price of a car. I hear less complaints that a diesel pickup costs $60,000 than the costs of a college degree that can give you a return on your investment.

Excellent point, i was thinking the same thing. Sure, i know of some degree mills where you "pay the fees and you get the B's"...but those are at mostly non-public schools offering an unaccredited Bachelor of Arts/BA. Any state school offering an accredited Bachelor of Science (i.e. minimum of two semesters of Physics and Calculus 2 regardless of area of academic study) is going to have a solid base line.

You couldn't be more right on the Truck deal. I love anything automotive...but people don't think twice about financing a depreciating asset for 6 years, but squawk on the perceived "waste of money" on an education. I always suggest people do an ROI calculation on a house, a new car, and then a college degree from a state school. It's eye opening. That required cost and profit analysis class or finance elective would come in handy i'd think for most people.

word302 06-07-2019 05:22 PM

"But I don't have one so they must be stupid."

msprj2 06-08-2019 01:52 AM

“I spent $100k to check a box, so should everyone else “.

word302 06-08-2019 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2833692)
“I spent $100k to check a box, so should everyone else “.

Lol. If you think it can't be done for much less than 100k, you're not very creative.

BigZ 06-08-2019 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by 05Duramax (Post 2833280)
I'm really not sure where this idea, shared by many on here, comes from? Unless it's exclusively held by people who don't have a degree and use it as some poor excuse. I'm curious as to what evidence you have that the quality of higher education has gone "down the drain"?

From observation of own and family members' classes over the past 20 years

PontiusPilot 06-08-2019 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2833713)
From observation of own and family members' classes over the past 20 years

So... anecdotal and not actually supported by anything.


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