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05Duramax 08-03-2019 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Desiflyer (Post 2862277)
How’s the pass rate at RPA with AQP style training ?
Are pilots getting extra sims/ground instructions if needed?

I was honestly surprised how much YX put into people that struggled during training. If you work hard and have a good attitude they will give you extra training if you need. (To a point!).

UnbeatenPath 08-03-2019 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by 05Duramax (Post 2864393)
I was honestly surprised how much YX put into people that struggled during training. If you work hard and have a good attitude they will give you extra training if you need. (To a point!).

You see that last sentence Yankee?

Needmorelegroom 08-03-2019 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by UnbeatenPath (Post 2864518)
You see that last sentence Yankee?

He can’t see, he’s blinded by the 300% pay at Mesa!!!

sflpilot 08-04-2019 09:41 AM

In the past Republic was always a train yourself type of operation. I didn’t have a problem with it, but it was very noticeable that many people were struggling in that system. I wouldn’t fault someone who needs a more traditional learning environment.

stabapch 08-04-2019 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by sflpilot (Post 2864684)
In the past Republic was always a train yourself type of operation. I didn’t have a problem with it, but it was very noticeable that many people were struggling in that system. I wouldn’t fault someone who needs a more traditional learning environment.

So which 121 operations take you by the hand and say “follow me we’ll take baby steps through this together”?? Because I’m aware of none, whether it be regional, major, or whatever. Even back when I was in high school it was always “the train ain’t stopping, you either keep up or don’t” and there was no valuable career on the line then. This is not a training department fault, this is a student discipline fault.

PeakEGT 08-04-2019 02:06 PM

One thing on this forum is that when you’re looking for honest advice about what direction to take as your honest comparison on Regional A vs B, what you end up getting is a bash between regional A and B. I had class dates at 3 different regionals weeks from each other and took XJT which was my last and final choice and Im so far glad in the direction I took.

Look at what you find VALUABLE , more pay, easy commute, low reserve, etc and the rest will fall in place. I’m not saying XJT is the place to be but I’ve been happy so far, my goal was to fly as much as I can as a commuter and even just being on reserve I’ve been getting picking up 20-23hr credit 3-4 day trips.

As far as training was, XJT does baby you a little too much for my liking. I would study beforehand and the review in class was just boring it turned out to hearing out the instructors experience more than anything but be surprised that even then people didn’t pass. Each lesson is outlined to what gate you’re at, approach and maneuver you’re doing. Study it and there shouldn’t be a problem.

Blackhawk 08-04-2019 06:14 PM

I have no idea how the training is at Republic, but I have not heard anything bad about it until now so I tend to give their instructors the benefit of the doubt. I knew the ASA side of XJT and it was very good. I've heard the same about the LXJT side.
Having said that, many seem to throw around this term "We aren't going to hold your hand", which seems to actually mean "we don't teach we only evaluate". There is a difference. Teaching actually takes effort on the part of the instructor to know well enough to teach. You hit the books more than the students. You make learning meaningful... you know... all that crap from the Instructor's Handbook. Here's a quote straight from the FAA Aviation Instructor's Handbook:
"Learning should be an enjoyable experience. By making each lesson a pleasurable experience for the student, the instructor can maintain a high level of student motivation. This does not mean the instructor makes things easy for the student or sacrifices standards of performance to please the student. The student experiences satisfaction from doing a good job or from successfully meeting the challenge of a difficult task."
Unfortunately, too many airline instructors equate "demanding" with "being an a$%". Yeah, I used to be one of those instructors in the military. It wasn't until I tried to teach someone in a combat environment and realized they were more scared of me than being shot down that I realized I was pretty screwed up in my method of instruction. Yelling, demeaning, belittling or trying to "trick" a student is not teaching.
Some of the best teachers I had in the airlines were very demanding and gave thorough debriefs. But they were also patient and knowledgable instructors. Sometimes they just kept their mouth shut and let us learn in the simulator- sometimes the best learning tool is making a mistake.

CLE to IAH 08-04-2019 06:56 PM

I did L-XJT training in 2012. Coming from the fire service, it was a first time experience for me. I throughly enjoyed it. Our instructors (Shaun, MaryJane Et al) were fantastic. The review sessions were most helpful to me and I felt like they really cared about passing us. Again, I have nothing to compare it to (beyond fire dept training) but I found it to be professional and informative.

7 years ago. I know. IIWII

fortyeight 08-05-2019 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Yankee7 (Post 2860531)
Republic training issue worst of all regionals. Xjt only hiring into 145s. Go Skywest or Mesa. Best training. Mesa also you will fly a lot and upgrade at 1000hrs

Lmao.... Mesa.... lol


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