What is the deal with GoJets??
#51
I stole it from the taxpayers as well...thanks for subsidizing my flying. You know nothing about how I got to where I am. If you want me to lose sleep over my career progression you're barking up the wrong tree. I've paid my dues, talk to me when you've paid yours. I'm sure you're not flying any current of former mainline routes at AE. Amazing.
#52
apparently you dont......all regionals STEAL from mainline....JOBS and FLYING....FACT!! ALL regional boys SOLD the mainline guys down the river for an upgrade and the chance to move on.....yeah I know exactly what it is.... I see it everyday.....Im not the draft dodger....or even close.....you my friend are more the GJ pilot than you think
#54
I hope you're drunk because you make no sense. You are what you berate. I saw your post above. You're not ****ing me off, I think it's comical.
#55
#56
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From: CL604
He is posting flamebait, but I do agree with some of his posts.
When you walk around with your hair all spiked out, it doesn't look professional. When you walk around wearing a half dozen rings on various fingers, you don't look professional. When you walk around wearing a windbreaker and sunvisor, you don't look professional...IMHO.
I'm sorry, but this latest generation coming into the workforce is pretty sad. These people are EXPECTING to be offered whatever job they want because mommy and daddy said thats what should happen. Its a generation of entitlement. They show up at interviews in flipflops and little hippy skirts. Had a flight attendant refuse a junior man...she called her mom after receiving it, her mom said she didn't have to do it, so as she was marching off the airplane past us she says "my momma says I don't have to do no XXX turn" and proceeded to walk of the aircraft. Pretty soon you're going to start seeing parents going to these job recruitment fairs, trying to get little Bobby or Julie their first flying gig. Unbelievable...
As far as the regionals "stealing" the flying from the majors...whatever. The majors had their chance to fly all the RJ's they wanted, but they thought they were too good for them and didn't want to fly such small aircraft. Thus, they went to the regionals. Although it is amusing, it is still BS that flying is being transferred from one place to another because people stand up for themselves. The biggest BS is that its accepted at someplace like skypest, for whatever reason, but somewhere else its really frowned on. Its the same crap! ASA was suppose to be flying those 900's, but since skypest is willing to fly them for next to nothing...they get them. Unfortunately, its happened before and will happen again.
When you walk around with your hair all spiked out, it doesn't look professional. When you walk around wearing a half dozen rings on various fingers, you don't look professional. When you walk around wearing a windbreaker and sunvisor, you don't look professional...IMHO.
I'm sorry, but this latest generation coming into the workforce is pretty sad. These people are EXPECTING to be offered whatever job they want because mommy and daddy said thats what should happen. Its a generation of entitlement. They show up at interviews in flipflops and little hippy skirts. Had a flight attendant refuse a junior man...she called her mom after receiving it, her mom said she didn't have to do it, so as she was marching off the airplane past us she says "my momma says I don't have to do no XXX turn" and proceeded to walk of the aircraft. Pretty soon you're going to start seeing parents going to these job recruitment fairs, trying to get little Bobby or Julie their first flying gig. Unbelievable...
As far as the regionals "stealing" the flying from the majors...whatever. The majors had their chance to fly all the RJ's they wanted, but they thought they were too good for them and didn't want to fly such small aircraft. Thus, they went to the regionals. Although it is amusing, it is still BS that flying is being transferred from one place to another because people stand up for themselves. The biggest BS is that its accepted at someplace like skypest, for whatever reason, but somewhere else its really frowned on. Its the same crap! ASA was suppose to be flying those 900's, but since skypest is willing to fly them for next to nothing...they get them. Unfortunately, its happened before and will happen again.
#57
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GoArmy –
I do believe GoJets pilots do get hired with the majors; I think the main difference might be that some of the GoJeters might have fewer recommendations/sponsors than they’d have had if they worked for a different company which I think is very important in this industry.
I read your posts over and over again and I’m not quite sure what you’re saying. I assume you currently work at GoJets and are defending your position?
Well, let me ask you this – are you saying that airlines should be able to cancel out any pilot contracts whenever it pleases them? For example, let’s say an airline’s management wants to lower the average pay at brand A but the pilots won’t agree to it. So the management starts a new alter–ego brand Ax where the pay is slightly less but the equipment is larger so in fact the pilot salaries are actually even lower when counted per passenger. If you are ok with that, what’s to say the same airline won’t start airline Axx, and then Axxx, etc. within months to save the money even more?
I totally agree with you that most regional airlines’ pay and benefits (or lack of) are ridiculous, however are you saying that total surrender is the answer?
I am not a militant union guy however do you honestly think the pay and benefits at FedEx, SWA, UPS would be this high if it wasn’t for the pilots’ strong commitment to each other? I mean, c’mon, capitalism always prevails (and I’m a big proponent of capitalism) however, if the managements at all airlines could make it happen we would all be living on minimum wage. And frankly they’d be doing what they are supposed to be doing as the managements’ job at all airlines is to make as much money for their company as they can.
Well, the pilots have to look after each other too, so it’s a little bit of a balancing act between the airlines and the pilot groups.
Companies such as GoJets throw this balance off. Why should an airline negotiate with its pilots when they can simply start up a new airline and pay the pilots less that way?
If you think there’s nothing wrong with GoJets and that anyone should be able to work at such an airline please consider this…isn’t it sort of like saying, “well I am all for democracy but only if people vote the way I want them to.” “If I disagree with the majority vote, I will follow my own lead!” Like in Mexico where two “presidents” were sworn in at the same time?…
So I guess my question is, would you please explain why you are defending GoJets so much without getting into bashing of all the other regionals?
Because we all know they do suck as well however in a different, much less backstabbing way.
I do believe GoJets pilots do get hired with the majors; I think the main difference might be that some of the GoJeters might have fewer recommendations/sponsors than they’d have had if they worked for a different company which I think is very important in this industry.
I read your posts over and over again and I’m not quite sure what you’re saying. I assume you currently work at GoJets and are defending your position?
Well, let me ask you this – are you saying that airlines should be able to cancel out any pilot contracts whenever it pleases them? For example, let’s say an airline’s management wants to lower the average pay at brand A but the pilots won’t agree to it. So the management starts a new alter–ego brand Ax where the pay is slightly less but the equipment is larger so in fact the pilot salaries are actually even lower when counted per passenger. If you are ok with that, what’s to say the same airline won’t start airline Axx, and then Axxx, etc. within months to save the money even more?
I totally agree with you that most regional airlines’ pay and benefits (or lack of) are ridiculous, however are you saying that total surrender is the answer?
I am not a militant union guy however do you honestly think the pay and benefits at FedEx, SWA, UPS would be this high if it wasn’t for the pilots’ strong commitment to each other? I mean, c’mon, capitalism always prevails (and I’m a big proponent of capitalism) however, if the managements at all airlines could make it happen we would all be living on minimum wage. And frankly they’d be doing what they are supposed to be doing as the managements’ job at all airlines is to make as much money for their company as they can.
Well, the pilots have to look after each other too, so it’s a little bit of a balancing act between the airlines and the pilot groups.
Companies such as GoJets throw this balance off. Why should an airline negotiate with its pilots when they can simply start up a new airline and pay the pilots less that way?
If you think there’s nothing wrong with GoJets and that anyone should be able to work at such an airline please consider this…isn’t it sort of like saying, “well I am all for democracy but only if people vote the way I want them to.” “If I disagree with the majority vote, I will follow my own lead!” Like in Mexico where two “presidents” were sworn in at the same time?…
So I guess my question is, would you please explain why you are defending GoJets so much without getting into bashing of all the other regionals?
Because we all know they do suck as well however in a different, much less backstabbing way.
Last edited by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE; 05-08-2007 at 07:52 PM.
#60
Sorry to say, but it is not true at all that if you go to Go Jets you'll have a hard time getting on with a mainline..If you were to randomly ask a Southwest, United, Delta Captain anything about Go Jets I can guarantee you that they could care less who flies what CRJ, in there eyes your all the same. Sad but its true.
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