Originally Posted by ninerdriver
(Post 2937406)
Endeavor's reserve is long, and Endeavor has a glut of 2017 hires who are holding things up movement-wise. It's not a bad airline, but it's not a good pick for time-building and upgrades right now.
Republic has a lot of the same pay/QOL perks as Endeavor (and some better), but it doesn't have the same glut of pilots. Envoy QOL is by far the worst of the three, and you can probably get a job somewhere else before you flow in nine years. Unless AA is your goal, it isn't worth it. |
Originally Posted by Skyhawkie
(Post 2937411)
So it sounds like Republic is the best choice of the 3 as of right now. I really appreciate all the information.
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This is not accurate. So many of our pilots have moved on we’re at a net loss for 2019 so far. Our pilots go to all 3 legacies, Spirit, Frontier, Southwest, & ACMI’s.
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Originally Posted by Web265
(Post 2937523)
This is not accurate. So many of our pilots have moved on we’re at a net loss for 2019 so far. Our pilots go to all 3 legacies, Spirit, Frontier, Southwest, & ACMI’s.
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Originally Posted by speedbrakearmed
(Post 2937514)
The problem is that there isn't that much movement
I apologize for not being clearer. This is the only part of the post I’m responding to. There is quite a bit of movement! Is it as much as Envoy? I have no idea. Cheers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Web265
(Post 2937536)
I apologize for not being clearer.
This is the only part of the post I’m responding to. There is quite a bit of movement! Is it as much as Envoy? I have no idea. Cheers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
This is all great information, thank you guys. Please keep it coming.
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Republic seems to be the flavor of the kool aid for the last 6 months or so. Before that, it was Endeavor. Personally, I would go Envoy, put the flow in the back pocket while you can still apply to other places including AA (off the street).
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Originally Posted by speedbrakearmed
(Post 2937528)
I'm not saying that there is zero movement, I'm saying that there is less movement which has to be true. The same is said for people at Envoy, people leave for all 3 legacies, Spirit, Frontier, Southwest, & ACMI’s as well. But additionally there are 20 people who leave off the top every month. Republic is a great carrier, I have a bunch of friends there and everyone is more than happy. I've said that Republic is a great carrier, with great airplanes, and great routes (look up a couple posts). I'm not trying to get into any type of argument, we're all pilots all looking out for each other, but good or bad, it's just a non argumentative fact that Envoy loses more people every year than Republic.
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This is turning out to be a very difficult decision between the 3. The pluses and minuses I see so far are.
Envoy Pluses 1) 3 hour call out 2) AA flow 3) Possibly shorter reserve times 4) Possibly faster upgrade to captain Minuses 1) Driving to LGA (from South shore eastern Long Island) 2) Quality of life not as good as 2 others? Endeavor Pluses 1) LGA & JFK base 2) Driving to JFK after a little seniority 3) 2 1/2 call out to JFK better than LGA 4) Highest pay for regional, at least that’s what they say 5) Good quality of life 6) CRJ 900 7) Delta interview Minuses 1) Possibly longer reserve times 2) Possibly longer upgrade to captain Republic 1) Possibly shorter reserve time 2) Not sitting in the airport on reserve all day 3) No junior manning 4) E175 5) Good quality of life 6) Better Pilot contract? Minuses 1) 2 hour call out 2) Driving to LGA 3) Possibly longer upgrade to captain I would greatly appreciate anymore I might have missed plus your thoughts and experiences. |
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