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Web265 12-14-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Skyhawkie (Post 2939007)
Thank you, the hard part is I have offers from all 3 with the same class date. I wish I could work for all of them, ughhhhhhhh. Is the 175 really the cat’s meow of the regional jets?

#itsagoodtimetobeapilot

lbell 12-14-2019 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=Skyhawkie;2938656]This is turning out to be a very difficult decision between the 3. The pluses and minuses I see so far are.

Envoy
Pluses
1) 3 hour call out
2) AA flow
3) Possibly shorter reserve times
4) Possibly faster upgrade to captain
Minuses
1) Driving to LGA (from South shore eastern Long Island)
2) Quality of life not as good as 2 others?

Endeavor
Pluses
1) LGA & JFK base
2) Driving to JFK after a little seniority
3) 2 1/2 call out to JFK better than LGA
4) Highest pay for regional, at least that’s what they say
5) Good quality of life
6) CRJ 900
7) Delta interview
Minuses
1) Possibly longer reserve times
2) Possibly longer upgrade to captain

Republic
1) Possibly shorter reserve time
2) Not sitting in the airport on reserve all day
3) No junior manning
4) E175
5) Good quality of life
6) Better Pilot contract?
Minuses
1) 2 hour call out
2) Driving to LGA
3) Possibly longer upgrade to captain

#5 at Republic needs HIGHER consideration
Ask Envoy Pilots how much their minimum trip guarantee is for a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 day trip vs Republic & Endeavor.

Example: You get called out to fly LGA - BOS, layover, then the next day fly back BOS- LGA and you are done. At Republic, you'll get credited approx 8.5 hrs for that trip.....

dera 12-14-2019 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by lbell (Post 2939049)
Example: You get called out to fly LGA - BOS, layover, then the next day fly back BOS- LGA and you are done. At Republic, you'll get credited approx 8.5 hrs for that trip.....

Who cares, you still never break guarantee at either off reserve.

ninerdriver 12-14-2019 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Skyhawkie (Post 2938713)
Does Endeavor train you for both the 200 and 900 at the same time?

Nope. It's one or the other, like 175 or 145 at Envoy. There's an 18 month seat lock.

Skyhawkie 12-15-2019 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2939078)
Who cares, you still never break guarantee at either off reserve.

Do you mean the guaranteed 75 hour per month? Sorry, this is all new to me and I’m trying to learn as mush as I can before making a decision. Thank you everyone for all your insightful input.

Skyhawkie 12-15-2019 02:03 AM

[QUOTE=lbell;2939049]

Originally Posted by Skyhawkie (Post 2938656)
This is turning out to be a very difficult decision between the 3. The pluses and minuses I see so far are.

Envoy
Pluses
1) 3 hour call out
2) AA flow
3) Possibly shorter reserve times
4) Possibly faster upgrade to captain
Minuses
1) Driving to LGA (from South shore eastern Long Island)
2) Quality of life not as good as 2 others?

Endeavor
Pluses
1) LGA & JFK base
2) Driving to JFK after a little seniority
3) 2 1/2 call out to JFK better than LGA
4) Highest pay for regional, at least that’s what they say
5) Good quality of life
6) CRJ 900
7) Delta interview
Minuses
1) Possibly longer reserve times
2) Possibly longer upgrade to captain

Republic
1) Possibly shorter reserve time
2) Not sitting in the airport on reserve all day
3) No junior manning
4) E175
5) Good quality of life
6) Better Pilot contract?
Minuses
1) 2 hour call out
2) Driving to LGA
3) Possibly longer upgrade to captain

#5 at Republic needs HIGHER consideration
Ask Envoy Pilots how much their minimum trip guarantee is for a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 day trip vs Republic & Endeavor.

Example: You get called out to fly LGA - BOS, layover, then the next day fly back BOS- LGA and you are done. At Republic, you'll get credited approx 8.5 hrs for that trip.....

Thank you, I was not listing these in order of importance. I was just writing them out as they popped up in my mind. I have spoken to a Republic Pilot and an Endeavor pilot who both said the quality of life is great at both.

Skyhawkie 12-15-2019 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2939082)
Nope. It's one or the other, like 175 or 145 at Envoy. There's an 18 month seat lock.

Thank you, good to know.

speedbrakearmed 12-15-2019 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by Skyhawkie (Post 2939236)
Do you mean the guaranteed 75 hour per month? Sorry, this is all new to me and I’m trying to learn as mush as I can before making a decision. Thank you everyone for all your insightful input.

When you're on rsv you're getting paid a guaranteed flat 75 hours a month regardless if you fly 75 hours or 7 hours. If you end up flying 80 hours that month lets say, you'll get your 75 hours guarantee with an additional 5 hours at your hourly rate. The thing is that that will never happen. Reservists will be lucky to fly 50 hours a month. As to your other question is the 175 a great airplane, absolutely, theres no question that its better than the 145 or CRJ. Is it however worth it to choose a company based off of it, not in my opinion... If you talk to enough people, the general sentiment if that you should never chase metal. They're all jets, their time is all counted the same. PM sent.

Skyhawkie 12-15-2019 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by speedbrakearmed (Post 2939278)
When you're on rsv you're getting paid a guaranteed flat 75 hours a month regardless if you fly 75 hours or 7 hours. If you end up flying 80 hours that month lets say, you'll get your 75 hours guarantee with an additional 5 hours at your hourly rate. The thing is that that will never happen. Reservists will be lucky to fly 50 hours a month. As to your other question is the 175 a great airplane, absolutely, theres no question that its better than the 145 or CRJ. Is it however worth it to choose a company based off of it, not in my opinion... If you talk to enough people, the general sentiment if that you should never chase metal. They're all jets, their time is all counted the same.

Thank you, I’m just trying to find the best regional for my needs and it seems like all 3 have great benefits. I have heard that too, I should not be chasing metal. It sounds like I might move up the fastest with Envoy but a better quality of life with Republic and Endeavor. I was also planning on staying at a regional because I only have about 14 years before mandatory retirement. I’m not sure if that makes much of a difference in the decision making process.

Web265 12-15-2019 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Skyhawkie (Post 2939283)
I was also planning on staying at a regional because I only have about 14 years before mandatory retirement. I’m not sure if that makes much of a difference in the decision making process.

I've never worked at Envoy, but, it seems to me they have a worse QOL than the other two, if you were planning on staying for a while, I might re-think that idea.

Having said that, 14 years is a LOOONNNGGG time in this industry at this time. If you check the boxes you could still make a legacy for 10 years.


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