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Originally Posted by Web265
(Post 2939286)
I've never worked at Envoy, but, it seems to me they have a worse QOL than the other two, if you were planning on staying for a while, I might re-think that idea.
Having said that, 14 years is a LOOONNNGGG time in this industry at this time. If you check the boxes you could still make a legacy for 10 years. |
Originally Posted by Skyhawkie
(Post 2939283)
Thank you, I’m just trying to find the best regional for my needs and it seems like all 3 have great benefits. I have heard that too, I should not be chasing metal. It sounds like I might move up the fastest with Envoy but a better quality of life with Republic and Endeavor. I was also planning on staying at a regional because I only have about 14 years before mandatory retirement. I’m not sure if that makes much of a difference in the decision making process.
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If you want to stay at the regional and never move on.....Republic is the best choice.....
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The quality of life at Republic is so much better than Envoy, any miniscule difference in movement (and I'm skeptical of that with how little Envoy guys fly on reserve) shouldn't move the needle at all. They're both essentially a 1000 hour upgrade these days. The only difference is that Republic won't force you to upgrade at 950 hours if you don't feel ready. And that is a completely normal thing to not be ready with that time.
You will be much happier at Republic in NYC, with two (very junior) bases to choose from and two bases to pick up trips from. It's also one area where Republic is definitely not going to go anywhere. Endeavor you'll get paid marginally more, but sit reserve for a long time and wait equally long to upgrade. I can't come up with any scenario where anyone would choose Envoy or Endeavor in NYC over Republic unless they absolutely had to go to AA. (also, people can and do break guarantee on reserve at Republic, especially if you're NYC-based) |
Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
(Post 2939342)
The quality of life at Republic is so much better than Envoy, any miniscule difference in movement (and I'm skeptical of that with how little Envoy guys fly on reserve) shouldn't move the needle at all. They're both essentially a 1000 hour upgrade these days. The only difference is that Republic won't force you to upgrade at 950 hours if you don't feel ready. And that is a completely normal thing to not be ready with that time.
You will be much happier at Republic in NYC, with two (very junior) bases to choose from and two bases to pick up trips from. It's also one area where Republic is definitely not going to go anywhere. Endeavor you'll get paid marginally more, but sit reserve for a long time and wait equally long to upgrade. I can't come up with any scenario where anyone would choose Envoy or Endeavor in NYC over Republic unless they absolutely had to go to AA. (also, people can and do break guarantee on reserve at Republic, especially if you're NYC-based) |
This is a no brainer. Unless you are so worried about your resume and interviewing skills that flow is your only chance to move on, Republic hands down. Best QOL, high credit lines, min day, low reserve times (and while on reserve you will get plenty of flying to build your hours), LGA and EWR being Jr bases, low upgrade time, etc.
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Originally Posted by LoneStar32
(Post 2939437)
This is a no brainer. Unless you are so worried about your resume and interviewing skills that flow is your only chance to move on, Republic hands down. Best QOL, high credit lines, min day, low reserve times (and while on reserve you will get plenty of flying to build your hours), LGA and EWR being Jr bases, low upgrade time, etc.
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Originally Posted by Skyhawkie
(Post 2939007)
Thank you, the hard part is I have offers from all 3 with the same class date. I wish I could work for all of them, ughhhhhhhh. Is the 175 really the cat’s meow of the regional jets?
That is a priceless backup to have while you apply through the front door with the other 14,000 regional pilots applying to mainline jobs. |
Originally Posted by Skyhawkie
(Post 2939283)
Thank you, I’m just trying to find the best regional for my needs and it seems like all 3 have great benefits. I have heard that too, I should not be chasing metal. It sounds like I might move up the fastest with Envoy but a better quality of life with Republic and Endeavor. I was also planning on staying at a regional because I only have about 14 years before mandatory retirement. I’m not sure if that makes much of a difference in the decision making process.
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Since the OP stated he wanted to stay at the Regional....Republic is a better choice. It would take him 10 years at Envoy (92.00 as per the rates listed on APC ENVOY PROFILE) to reach the same pay as a year 3 Captain (based on Jan 1, 2020 rates) at Republic. This is for the 145 at Envoy since he wants to be based in NYC.
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