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Tipping Van Drivers
Originally Posted by Swakid8
(Post 3263714)
But you mentioned restaurant staff, which most of them get paid less than minimum wage actually rely on tips with bussers, hosts getting a small cut. I know this from my previous experience in the restaurant industry. Can drivers aren’t anywhere close to being in the same category because at least they get min wage with some of them making more depending on their job (some drivers are just driving as a collateral duty) or property.
So no, stop it with the van driver to restaurant worker comparison because it’s obvious you haven’t worked in that industry either. Never been a van driver but I did put myself through college and flight school serving tables, bar tending and dabbled with the valet parking gig. I’m very familiar with the voided out checks on pay day. I really don’t care whether you tip the van driver or not, all I’m saying is it’s customary, the same way it is customary to tip a cab driver, valet, hair dresser, server, bellman, delivery driver, etc… You also don’t know who you’re tipping. That driver/valet/server could be working a second job trying to feed their kids or it could be some kid with a trust fund whose parents are making them work for life experience. Whether you agree with it or not is a moot point. How much you think someone makes and whether they need the money or not is a moot point. It’s still customary and expected, so I’ll still judge you for being cheap and socially inept if you don’t. |
Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3264342)
Never been a van driver but I did put myself through college and flight school serving tables, bar tending and dabbled with the valet parking gig. I’m very familiar with the voided out checks on pay day.
I really don’t care whether you tip the van driver or not, all I’m saying is it’s customary, the same way it is customary to tip a cab driver, valet, hair dresser, server, bellman, delivery driver, etc… You also don’t know who you’re tipping. That driver/valet/server could be working a second job trying to feed their kids or it could be some kid with a trust fund whose parents are making them work for life experience. Whether you agree with it or not is a moot point. How much you think someone makes and whether they need the money or not is a moot point. It’s still customary and expected, so I’ll still judge you for being cheap and socially inept if you don’t. |
Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3264342)
It’s still customary and expected, so I’ll still judge you for being cheap and socially inept if you don’t.
Expected is BS and you can put your dollar where the sun don’t shine. I called you a cheapskate for not tipping for the entire crew. |
Tipping Van Drivers
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 3264570)
Customary? A lot of things use to be customary, selling whiskey to Indians, buying and selling people of color, voting rights to women, segregation and a host of other things used to be “customary”.
Expected is BS and you can put your dollar where the sun don’t shine. I called you a cheapskate for not tipping for the entire crew. You sound like you’re a pleasure to fly with. Comparing slavery with jobs that are expected to be tipped. Classy. |
Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3264686)
You sound like you’re a pleasure to fly with. Comparing slavery with jobs that are expected to be tipped. Classy.
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Is it better to tip in change or not tip at all?
Edit * Serious question. |
Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
(Post 3264718)
Relax. You won. Whenever the slavery or nazi insults start to fly, the person making them lost the debate. Next.
Customary and “expected” Hehehehe…that’s funny right there. |
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 3264761)
Godwins Law my chubby friend.
Customary and “expected” Hehehehe…that’s funny right there. |
Originally Posted by rswitz
(Post 3264759)
Is it better to tip in change or not tip at all?
Edit * Serious question. I’d ask if they wanted it after telling them it was all I had. |
Originally Posted by fussydutchman
(Post 3229265)
If you want to tip, do it. I don’t and won’t, and am still amazed by the criticism made against that with logical fallacies and false equivalencies to it being a judgment of character and morality.
For those of you that swear by the social norm or any other argument that has been made, knock yourself out. But let’s be honest. Many of you throw a dollar or 2 at the van driver because it makes you feel less uncomfortable than not doing so. Spare me the moral superiority. I’m at peace knowing that my qualities as an airline pilot, a professional, or a leader come from being responsible, respectful, caring, empathetic, and loving to my family, my community, my friends, the public, and the planet I inhabit. |
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