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No Land 3 01-25-2020 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2964128)
You really should consider having a professional resume/application reviewing company that specializes in these things give your stuff a look. It will cost a little bit of money but the peace of mind will be worth it. And besides, the cost is what? A single premium pay trip once you get that job you’re looking for. Well worth it.

allegiant told me, "No". I then took an interview prep service and discovered just how out of touch and clueless I really was interviewing. I'll go as far as to say that you should do the interview prep before even going to a job fair. The job fair is where you make first impressions. I was a babbling idiot to the chief pilot at allegiant during the job fair and he was very surprised when he saw me interviewing in Las Vegas. I mean, he is the same guy that took off and couldn't land at destination because of an airshow, but what ever...

senecacaptain 01-25-2020 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by jimpix89 (Post 2962276)
Background.. 1470 hours, clean FAA record, no criminal history, no DUI or anything. I have a 4 year degree with honors from a good university. I’m in my mid 20s. I’ve checked and rechecked my application. Worst thing is that I had a string of bad luck with driving in the last 18 months. I got pulled over 3 times, twice for speeding 10% over the limit (both times they were deferred and dropped from my driving record after 90 days.) I also got nailed during those same traffic stops for having a headlight out and license plates expired. I know, I messed up on these stupid little things but learned from it.

I interviewed with Envoy, showed up prepared with all paperwork and thoroughly studied. Interview went great, was told I was well prepared and did a good job. But 9 days later I got an email saying “we’re sorry, we can’t consider you at this time, apply again in 6 months.

So I applied to Mesa, they called me and I got a phone screen an hour later. It went fine. But then I get the same rejection email 30 minutes later.

I know how to interview because I went through many while trying to get a job out of college and I received offers. I’ve always shown up prepared and well dressed, shoes shined, paperwork in order.

What gives? Im prepared to bring at least 5 if not 10 recommendation letters to my next interview. I’m baffled especially in this hiring environment. Nervous to keep interviewing if this is going to keep happening, possibly closing more doors!

Just curious:

Have you ever been arrested by the police or law enforcement, ever ?

How many checkrides have you failed ?

Any FAA violations or sanctions against you ?

I know you said "clean record" but did any actions such as the above ever get initiated by another agency

jimpix89 01-25-2020 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 2964197)
Just curious:

Have you ever been arrested by the police or law enforcement, ever ?

How many checkrides have you failed ?

Any FAA violations or sanctions against you ?

No arrest (checked records too in case of a mistaken ID or ID theft) one check ride failure (PPL) and no FAA actions against me or violations.

Im thinking I made some mistakes with my application.

Also, a personal friend of mine with mostly the same clean background was rejected as well. I’m sure we both made mistakes, but they can also afford to be selective at this time which contributed.

senecacaptain 01-25-2020 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by jimpix89 (Post 2964200)
No arrest (checked records too in case of a mistaken ID or ID theft) one check ride failure (PPL) and no FAA actions against me or violations.

Im thinking I made some mistakes with my application.

Also, a personal friend of mine with mostly the same clean background was rejected as well. I’m sure we both made mistakes, but they can also afford to be selective at this time which contributed.

application review should happen

FLT000 01-25-2020 01:38 PM

It was probably the neck and face tattoos.

Excargodog 01-25-2020 04:01 PM

Piercings?

NeverHome 01-25-2020 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2964261)
Piercings?

Prince Albert is alive and well

Baradium 01-30-2020 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by ItnStln (Post 2967553)
I have a question concerning the SIDA checks. Is the check the same as one would take if they were to work at an airport in a non-fly capacity? If so, does the ability to pass that check mean one would pass the airline’s check for a pilot position?

We can't discuss security protocols or checks.

rickair7777 01-30-2020 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2967558)
We can't discuss security protocols or checks.

We can talk about SIDA in regards to employment aspects, just not actual procedures for accessing secure areas.

ItnStln 01-30-2020 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2967670)
We can talk about SIDA in regards to employment aspects, just not actual procedures for accessing secure areas.

That's what I thought, thanks for the clarification. Is the check the same as one would take if they were to work at an airport in a non-fly capacity? If so, does the ability to pass that check mean one would pass the airline’s check for a pilot position?


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