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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3048637)
look at the graph on that page. Those numbers are only through 4/25. It takes them a few days to get the data in and sort it.
“Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes.” |
Originally Posted by ImmaAHole
(Post 3048499)
Right now is the best time to fly with cabins at 30% occupancy.
People will revolt and never fly again if you bring the loads back up to pre covid levels at this point in time. People will fill planes if tickets to Florida for next winter are $50 each way. The ULCC model proves that people will put up with almost anything if the ticket is cheap enough. |
Originally Posted by sanicom3205
(Post 3048273)
If they're in such dire straits that they are going to close a WO, they would be in BK. And if they're in BK, they can get out of those burdensome contracts with contract carriers. Liquidate a company that flies jets that you own, or cut contracts and say peace, talk to you later. Hmmmmm, are you guys actually acting like there is even a decision to be made here?
"Sometimes WO equals PWNED" lol dude.... come on. Which regionals have furloughed? Which have shut down? Which have lost flying to other carriers? I can tell you that none of them were AA WOs. Some of these cats are getting to mainline in five years or less, their companies are stable. Might not be the best QOL or pay out there, but you can't argue it is a bad deal for anyone. There was a very similar situation at Delta after the merger with Northwest. Delta had three WO regionals that it didn't really want anymore; Comair, Compass, and Mesaba. Granted there was nothing like a flowthrough program except for the original Compass guys, Delta wanted to get rid it's regionals. They had pretty much made Comair worthless over the years, so they couldn't sell them. Mesaba and Compass did get sold, but Comair was eventually just liquidated. I'm not saying anything like this will happen, but AA doesn't need pilot's anymore. Does it make sense to have 3 WO regionals anymore? Does AA need cash? Buckle down folks. It's going to be wild. |
Originally Posted by ImmaAHole
(Post 3048499)
I think with social distancing, which the majority of the public agrees with, simply will not want to get into a crowded RJ or 737 where social distancing is impossible and air in the cabin is recirculated. I believe more spacious cabins are the future.(A32x, E175).
Right now is the best time to fly with cabins at 30% occupancy. People will revolt and never fly again if you bring the loads back up to pre covid levels at this point in time. |
On the PDT ground handling side of things..what’s to keep AA from doing what DL did to DGS?
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Originally Posted by Av8rPHX
(Post 3048747)
On the PDT ground handling side of things..what’s to keep AA from doing what DL did to DGS?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In my opinion the best ground crews have been the 3rd party contractors. |
Originally Posted by captande
(Post 3048768)
Couple things. Without 2 you can’t make them bid against each other. Secondly no one wanting to buy them.
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Originally Posted by saxman66
(Post 3048700)
Ghosts of Comair has entered the chat.
There was a very similar situation at Delta after the merger with Northwest. Delta had three WO regionals that it didn't really want anymore; Comair, Compass, and Mesaba. Granted there was nothing like a flowthrough program except for the original Compass guys, Delta wanted to get rid it's regionals. They had pretty much made Comair worthless over the years, so they couldn't sell them. Mesaba and Compass did get sold, but Comair was eventually just liquidated. I'm not saying anything like this will happen, but AA doesn't need pilot's anymore. Does it make sense to have 3 WO regionals anymore? Does AA need cash? Buckle down folks. It's going to be wild. AA doesn’t need pilots right now. We will in two years, our retirements are off the wall. Unless you want to argue that we will be about half the size we are today in five years, in which case I would say you’re crazy. |
Originally Posted by sanicom3205
(Post 3048496)
Average rent for a building at an international airport is $17 per square foot. Envoy HQ is 150,000 square feet, or $2.55 million per month. Not sure what they actually pay, but that’s hefty.
I'm sure the rent is substantial, but it does support a company with 18000 employees. Are you suggesting Amazon pays $17 million in rent per month for their facility? |
Originally Posted by ChickHicks
(Post 3047338)
Serious question...why would it be easier and cheaper to merge PSA and envoy, then PDT and envoy?
There could be a work around, but that’s how it’s worked in the past. Ask any of the Bizex pilots that were flying the E135 when AA bought them to be part of Eagle. Same CMO office, don’t see why they wouldn't follow their own precedent. One way is to liquidate PDT and furlough all pilots. Send the planes to the desert. Add the PSA CRJ training program to Envoys. Furlough from both as needed. Recall as needed but all pilots only go to Envoy. Indoc and train as needed. The PSA guys not furloughed do a CBT Envoy indoc, then change ID’s. Two regional administrations are then gone. They can’t do most of that until October, so a consolidation is possible first. I’m skipping over lots of little steps, but those are the highlights. I expect bankruptcy to be involved also. If they did a consolidation with PSA/ENY with ENY being the survivor, how much of the PSA administration will resign rather than move to Irving TX? They’d have to furlough before consolidating or they’ll have to wait for a full SLI to happen first. Envoy shares most of the infrastructure, policy & procedure similarity with AA, including DECS/RES. The Envoy CEO is also an AAG corporate officer, the CEO’s of the other two regionals are nobodies outside their company. Lots of possibilities, these are but a few examples. The least likely is a PDT and Envoy merger. |
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