Starting Regional Pay
#22
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#24
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It’s a lost cause. Time to come home and help us hold down the fort from those Californians fleeing California and trying to bring it with them.
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Why do you think there was a “““shortage”””? Spend tens of thousands of dollars and spend half the month in a hotel/crash pad to make what an ASSISTANT manager at a big box retailer does as an RJ captain (store managers smoke the regionals in pay)? Say what you want about millennials, but they realized what a joke that was which forced regionals to pay better wages. We’ll see how the dust settles of the next yearish in regards to the labor market.
#27
Crazy that starting fire fighter pay in Texas is mid $50’s, for 6 months of training. Yet a few years, numerous check rides and a $70k debt later you’re lucky to get a $45k a year regional job.
The sign on bonus may be a thing of the past but if they eliminate it they will discourage many career changer that just can’t afford the pay cut. And let’s be honest, during the last few good years the majority of new hires were career changers 35-50 year olds.
The sign on bonus may be a thing of the past but if they eliminate it they will discourage many career changer that just can’t afford the pay cut. And let’s be honest, during the last few good years the majority of new hires were career changers 35-50 year olds.
By contrast, the biggest threat on a 4 day is spilling coffee on my one pilot shirt on the van to the overnight on Day 1...
#28
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Position: A320 FO
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Crazy that starting fire fighter pay in Texas is mid $50’s, for 6 months of training. Yet a few years, numerous check rides and a $70k debt later you’re lucky to get a $45k a year regional job.
The sign on bonus may be a thing of the past but if they eliminate it they will discourage many career changer that just can’t afford the pay cut. And let’s be honest, during the last few good years the majority of new hires were career changers 35-50 year olds.
The sign on bonus may be a thing of the past but if they eliminate it they will discourage many career changer that just can’t afford the pay cut. And let’s be honest, during the last few good years the majority of new hires were career changers 35-50 year olds.
Things will improve but your base case assumption should be a long slog. Hopefully we can hold the line and avoid a tidal wave of consessions. But to expect any gains for the next 2-3 years is extremely unrealistic.
The only way we got where we are today was the pipeline virtually stopping for at least half a decade.
#29
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 167
Thanks for the replies guys. I’m going to give it until October 1 at least to see how the industry goes. Hopefully no layoffs for any of you guys, but if massive layoffs occur I see myself pushing back starting for a year since all the furloughed pilots would have to be brought back over time.
#30
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 180
Honesty here in California. Easily yes to both with a pension. I cleared well over $100,000 my second year as a firefighter/paramedic and most our captains make $300,000 with OT. That’s with out gaming the system.
All of our pay is public info at transparent California.com. Look at various fire depts to see what many guys doing this make. It was the number factor that made me switch from airlines to this career, and of course stability.
All of our pay is public info at transparent California.com. Look at various fire depts to see what many guys doing this make. It was the number factor that made me switch from airlines to this career, and of course stability.
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