The FAA needs to CYA. If one of these pilots has an at-fault accident down the line the FAA would get hammered (and likely lose a lawsuit) for allowing questionable credentials to stand.

For airline applicants, you'll need to get some human intervention to get past the computer screen un-penalized. Job fairs, meet-n-greets, or even have your buddy call HR or a CP. This should not be held against pilots once the facts are known, but you will probably have to check a box on the app depending on how they word it.

 

US version of Pakistan.

 

I don’t see why it would be an issue on an app? Have you ever had any certificate action? If I re-take and pass my check ride, no. The only action that will be taken is if I don’t re-take the ride within the time frame.

 

Right, and two weeks is a ridiculous time frame.

 

Someone at Kalitta or one of the other ACMI carriers could legitimately be on a trip and not even find out about this for two weeks. Seems pretty insane to me.

 

I don't know how the FAA documents the thing. If it's a 709 ride for example that will be a flag.

If you don't feel you have to check yes to any questions on the app due to this, I would probably let them know first thing at the interview. Otherwise if they find something in your file that looks like a 709 they won't be happy.

 

good point about the 709. I always pull my file before I start applying, so if it was there, I’d document it on the app, otherwise, I don’t see it as an issue.

 

I'd argue that a 709 ride is a certificate action, I.E. your certificate is no longer valid. It will certainly be on your record and will show up in a search therefore will need to be disclosed.

 

Wrong.

A 44709 re-examination is not a certificate action, it's as the name implies, a re-examination. Pass the re-examination and there's no action. However, failing it could result in an certificate action.

https://fsims.faa.gov/wdocs/8900.1/v...07_001rev1.htm

49 U.S. Code § 44709. Amendments, modifications, suspensions, and revocations of certificates

(a) Reinspection and Reexamination.—
(1) In general.—
The Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration may reinspect at any time a civil aircraft, aircraft engine, propeller, appliance, design organization, production certificate holder, air navigation facility, or air agency, or reexamine an airman holding a certificate issued under section 44703 of this title.

(2) Notification of reexamination of airman.—Before taking any action to reexamine an airman under paragraph (1) the Administrator shall provide to the airman—
(A)
a reasonable basis, described in detail, for requesting the reexamination; and

(B)
any information gathered by the Federal Aviation Administration, that the Administrator determines is appropriate to provide, such as the scope and nature of the requested reexamination, that formed the basis for that justification.

 

In this case, the notice explicitly states that all of these pilots who need a re-check are getting a 709 ride.