If he was your DPE, you must retake checkride
07-25-2020, 06:31 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by neverposts
"I'd be like sure I'll retake my private, just come observe me in the 777 sim on my next recurrent."
You went from ppl to the 777 in ten years? Must be nice...
You went from ppl to the 777 in ten years? Must be nice...
07-25-2020, 06:48 AM
#24
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I wasn't talking about acmi. There is a 22 year old thats the youngest 777 FO at southern. I'm talking about getting on with the big 3. How many pilots go from private pilot to american or united or delta in less than ten years? 14 years in the military ten years to flow through roughly and probably more than ten years to climb the ladder on the civilian side.
07-25-2020, 06:53 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Who is the ‘they love in this logic of “how did they” let this go on so long?
The ‘they’d’ are an unscrupulous DPE and all of the unscrupulous pilots who loved the fact they THEY got an easy/incomplete/or nonexistent checkride and still walked away with their new ticket.
Some of the posters also need to actually read the document to understand how different certificates and such are handle or the scheduling is being arraigned (e.g. no you don’t need to take your PVT checkride again if you are flying a -777)
The ‘they’d’ are an unscrupulous DPE and all of the unscrupulous pilots who loved the fact they THEY got an easy/incomplete/or nonexistent checkride and still walked away with their new ticket.
Some of the posters also need to actually read the document to understand how different certificates and such are handle or the scheduling is being arraigned (e.g. no you don’t need to take your PVT checkride again if you are flying a -777)
But it would be possible if you came to the airlines with an ATP in hand to have multiple type ratings, but still have your original ATP in jeopardy if issued by the guy in question.
07-25-2020, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ObadiahDogberry
Germans are nowhere near as efficient and straight laced as you'd think. In so many ways Germany is like going back in time 30 years. In most smaller cities it is hard to find a place that accepts credit cards. Since living in Europe I have completely abandoned cash except when I go to Germany. I have been rudely surprised by Germany's love affair with cash more than once. Last summer I had to spend an hour running around Hildesheim in a downpour trying to find an ATM because we couldn't find a restaurant that would take cards. Happened a few years ago on the outskirts of Munich as well. I am sure you don't need to be reminded of the efficiency of the new Berlin airport. My experiences with Germany have been nowhere near as efficient as they have been in their neighboring countries, particularly the ones to the north. I have worked with many German pilots for the past several years, and none of them are happy with the German CAA, and the general recommendation in Europe is, if possible, to avoid getting licensed through Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, and Germany because they all are well known for headaches.
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07-25-2020, 07:42 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yes if you're in heavy metal and you got your ATP in 121/135 or from any other examiner you're good for work. Worst that would be on hold would be PPL and/or CPL, if you actually still had that on your cert (most of us still have an ASEL CPL). Also CFI, that would suck.
But it would be possible if you came to the airlines with an ATP in hand to have multiple type ratings, but still have your original ATP in jeopardy if issued by the guy in question.
But it would be possible if you came to the airlines with an ATP in hand to have multiple type ratings, but still have your original ATP in jeopardy if issued by the guy in question.
when you actually take time to read the letter issued then you see that is impossible but you had every ticket issued by said examiner which again I think is impossible so it is a moot point.
07-25-2020, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Who is the ‘they love in this logic of “how did they” let this go on so long?
The ‘they’d’ are an unscrupulous DPE and all of the unscrupulous pilots who loved the fact they THEY got an easy/incomplete/or nonexistent checkride and still walked away with their new ticket.
Some of the posters also need to actually read the document to understand how different certificates and such are handle or the scheduling is being arraigned (e.g. no you don’t need to take your PVT checkride again if you are flying a -777)
The ‘they’d’ are an unscrupulous DPE and all of the unscrupulous pilots who loved the fact they THEY got an easy/incomplete/or nonexistent checkride and still walked away with their new ticket.
Some of the posters also need to actually read the document to understand how different certificates and such are handle or the scheduling is being arraigned (e.g. no you don’t need to take your PVT checkride again if you are flying a -777)
As to the rest of your post about people needing to read the doc (I did out of curiosity), I take these posts about come see me in my 777 as more in jest. No reason to take it seriously. You should too.
07-25-2020, 10:44 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
I’m willing to bet not every one of the pilots that scheduled an exam with this dude knew he was unscrupulous and may have felt that had gotten a real checkride. I feel bad for those guys. Two weeks to catch up on something you may not have done in years is tough.
As to the rest of your post about people needing to read the doc (I did out of curiosity), I take these posts about come see me in my 777 as more in jest. No reason to take it seriously. You should too.
As to the rest of your post about people needing to read the doc (I did out of curiosity), I take these posts about come see me in my 777 as more in jest. No reason to take it seriously. You should too.
07-25-2020, 11:02 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I took some of it in jest, some of it as people are uneducated about what the document actually says. Those who wrote what they wrote know which category they fall in. Many may have had real checkrides. We don’t know. I feel sorry for those that may have. They got caught up in unscrupulous actions. It is one those people that screwed their fellow pilots over. It isn’t the first time and likely won’t be the last. It is sad to say that DPEs (and evening ASIs) have been less than truthful about Their actions in the past. These positions require some faith of purpose and integrity and often the dollar overrides.
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