who is "the industry" ? CEOs ? Unions?

while this nebulous term is defined, if they don't do anything pro-environment, who holds "the industry" accountable?

nobody. nobody cares. the only thing airlines care about is bodies in seats and making money. Joe Traveler could give 2 sh**ts about if his airplane is carbon free. He wants his $29 ticket.

carbon mandates and green energy have been the talk of politicians worldwide, for years. Put "green energy" up there with "inflation" and "employment numbers" as hot topics. Left and right both:

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archi...an-energy.html

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archiv...ing-substances

Props exist because they are economical for the mission planned.

The "industry" in this context is not unions lol.

It is airlines and airframe manufacturers, plus all supporting business infrastructure. In other words the people who don't want onerous, heavy-handed, and ill-conceived climate regulations and taxes interfering with their operations and revenue. IATA and A4A are the avatars of the "industry" as we know it.

They have all realized that they are going to have to get their own house in order or someone like AOC is going to do it for them, and they're not going to like that.

For a long time the industry kicked the can in the interest of short-term market performance, while making some green gestures in markets where the public might care a little (ie not DFW).

Public and political sentiment is changing, and they have to react. Especially now that the US will be getting back on the carbon wagon, maybe in spades.

In this case it is not the average Joe beer drinking passenger that matters. What he thinks is irrelevant. It is what Governments think along with their ever increasing environmental standards. Any airline who buy a gas guzzler at this point is going to find themselves restricted in the near future.

Problem is that the public equates a turbofan with safety, and spinny things as dangerous.

Don’t ask me why, because I don’t understand it...

Is there really that much fear out there in the flying public of turbo props?

Like do we have actual concrete examples that the vast majority of the public thinks props are dangerous?

Make it as comfortable inside as the new Embraers and I don’t think anyone will care.

Heck I think flying on a Q400 is a vastly more comfortable experience than a CRJ.

Agreed. Also, if it has a better air conditioning system than the CRJ-200 and pax don't have to gate check their bags it's a win for them.....

Except that pushing the climate change agenda IS socialism.

It's kinda like asking the question: "Is there really that much fear out there in the pilot population of AOC running the White House now that a Democrat is the President-elect?"

Lots of anecdotal evidence. A bunch of hearsay. Something on the Internet. You can point to an episode in the past where a hard stance was taken for a second, and then pulled back (the Q400 at United, ACA mandate to have health insurance).

In the end, though, it's hard to say for sure.

You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the New West. You know...morons.

there you have it folks. more things to worry about

2021 Things to Fear

COVID
murder hornets
Jeff Bezos
(added today) turboprops