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rickair7777 11-23-2020 01:30 PM

Prop Jobs Coming Back?
 
Embraer might be headed in an unexpected direction after Boeing left them hanging out to dry.

Carbon concerns might create an artificial market, even if airlines and pax would rather not. They are efficient, and can be made pretty smooth and quiet with modern tech.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN2831ZV

TransWorld 11-23-2020 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3162545)
Embraer might be headed in an unexpected direction after Boeing left them hanging out to dry.

Carbon concerns might create an artificial market, even if airlines and pax would rather not. They are efficient, and can be made pretty smooth and quiet with modern tech.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN2831ZV

For the US market, I hope not. The only main regional that still flies the turboprop is Horizon. They have been adding jets to what is now a 50-50 mix.

Europe and elsewhere still have turboprops in many places.

hydrostream 11-23-2020 02:37 PM

You hope not? Don’t like props?

firefighterplt 11-23-2020 03:11 PM

Love me some beta howl

ninerdriver 11-23-2020 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3162545)
Embraer might be headed in an unexpected direction after Boeing left them hanging out to dry.

Carbon concerns might create an artificial market, even if airlines and pax would rather not. They are efficient, and can be made pretty smooth and quiet with modern tech.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN2831ZV

This sounds like the Q400 argument all over again.

threeighteen 11-23-2020 06:34 PM

If it's gotta a better APU than the CRJ, better anti-ice than a CRJ, and climbs higher than FL250 (limit of the Q400), preferably to at least FL320, and wider seats than a CRJ, I really don't know how I could hate it. Hopefully they keep the window in the Lav.

TransWorld 11-23-2020 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by hydrostream (Post 3162569)
You hope not? Don’t like props?

PAX do not. Just sit in SEA concourse C and you will hear. (Hub of Horizon).

itsmytime 11-24-2020 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3162553)
For the US market, I hope not. The only main regional that still flies the turboprop is Horizon. They have been adding jets to what is now a 50-50 mix.

Europe and elsewhere still have turboprops in many places.

I believe you’re right. they may sell some overseas, but it will be like the Space jet, or whatever it’s called now. They won’t find any u.s. airlines buying it.

rickair7777 11-24-2020 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 3162680)
I believe you’re right. they may sell some overseas, but it will be like the Space jet, or whatever it’s called now. They won’t find any u.s. airlines buying it.

We'll see what kind of carbon mandates we get going forward. If the left can lay off the socialism and anarchy platforms, I'm pretty sure they can advance significant climate policies in the foreseeable future. Even the right wing is starting to get on board, it's coming.

Turboprops will only make a small dent of course but they're something the industry can hold up and say "look what we're doing"! Especially if they get some hybrid options on the market, which might be barely technically feasible for short-haul regional ops (energy density numbers don't even remotely work for longer/larger ops).

LoneStar32 11-24-2020 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3162647)
If it's gotta a better APU than the CRJ, better anti-ice than a CRJ, and climbs higher than FL250 (limit of the Q400), preferably to at least FL320, and wider seats than a CRJ, I really don't know how I could hate it. Hopefully they keep the window in the Lav.

This right here. What the CRJ200 taught passengers is that just because it is a jet it doesn't make it a better flying experience.


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