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Old 11-23-2020 | 01:30 PM
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Embraer might be headed in an unexpected direction after Boeing left them hanging out to dry.

Carbon concerns might create an artificial market, even if airlines and pax would rather not. They are efficient, and can be made pretty smooth and quiet with modern tech.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN2831ZV
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Old 11-23-2020 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Embraer might be headed in an unexpected direction after Boeing left them hanging out to dry.

Carbon concerns might create an artificial market, even if airlines and pax would rather not. They are efficient, and can be made pretty smooth and quiet with modern tech.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN2831ZV
For the US market, I hope not. The only main regional that still flies the turboprop is Horizon. They have been adding jets to what is now a 50-50 mix.

Europe and elsewhere still have turboprops in many places.
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Old 11-23-2020 | 02:37 PM
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You hope not? Don’t like props?
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Old 11-23-2020 | 03:11 PM
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Old 11-23-2020 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Embraer might be headed in an unexpected direction after Boeing left them hanging out to dry.

Carbon concerns might create an artificial market, even if airlines and pax would rather not. They are efficient, and can be made pretty smooth and quiet with modern tech.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN2831ZV
This sounds like the Q400 argument all over again.
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Old 11-23-2020 | 06:34 PM
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If it's gotta a better APU than the CRJ, better anti-ice than a CRJ, and climbs higher than FL250 (limit of the Q400), preferably to at least FL320, and wider seats than a CRJ, I really don't know how I could hate it. Hopefully they keep the window in the Lav.
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Originally Posted by hydrostream
You hope not? Don’t like props?
PAX do not. Just sit in SEA concourse C and you will hear. (Hub of Horizon).
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Old 11-24-2020 | 02:29 AM
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For the US market, I hope not. The only main regional that still flies the turboprop is Horizon. They have been adding jets to what is now a 50-50 mix.

Europe and elsewhere still have turboprops in many places.
I believe you’re right. they may sell some overseas, but it will be like the Space jet, or whatever it’s called now. They won’t find any u.s. airlines buying it.
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Old 11-24-2020 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
I believe you’re right. they may sell some overseas, but it will be like the Space jet, or whatever it’s called now. They won’t find any u.s. airlines buying it.
We'll see what kind of carbon mandates we get going forward. If the left can lay off the socialism and anarchy platforms, I'm pretty sure they can advance significant climate policies in the foreseeable future. Even the right wing is starting to get on board, it's coming.

Turboprops will only make a small dent of course but they're something the industry can hold up and say "look what we're doing"! Especially if they get some hybrid options on the market, which might be barely technically feasible for short-haul regional ops (energy density numbers don't even remotely work for longer/larger ops).
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Old 11-24-2020 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
If it's gotta a better APU than the CRJ, better anti-ice than a CRJ, and climbs higher than FL250 (limit of the Q400), preferably to at least FL320, and wider seats than a CRJ, I really don't know how I could hate it. Hopefully they keep the window in the Lav.
This right here. What the CRJ200 taught passengers is that just because it is a jet it doesn't make it a better flying experience.
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