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06-05-2007 | 09:35 AM

#81

johnso29

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Originally Posted by skywatch

Your blaming the CEO for the established average passenger weights? Seriously?

Alright, who do you wanna blame? Somebodys gotta take the fall, who is it gonna be, seriously?

06-05-2007 | 09:39 AM

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skywatch

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Originally Posted by johnso29

Alright, who do you wanna blame? Somebodys gotta take the fall, who is it gonna be, seriously?

How about the FAA, who published the advisory circular detailing the process for determining average passenger weights? SERIOUSLY.

06-05-2007 | 09:42 AM

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johnso29

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Originally Posted by skywatch

How about the FAA, who published the advisory circular detailing the process for determining average passenger weights? SERIOUSLY.

Well gee, we don't seem to have that problem. Winter weights 189lbs Summer weights 184lbs Checked bags 30lbs Gate Checked 20lbs

Somebody made the poor decision and now everyone else suffers for it. Somebody is responsible and that person gets the blame...SERIOUSLY!

06-05-2007 | 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by skywatch

How about the FAA, who published the advisory circular detailing the process for determining average passenger weights? SERIOUSLY.

I think the point was that XJT undertook the cost and did the research (yes, they actually weighed pax and bags) in order to have a W&B program that is more accurate and increases revenue. I guarantee you the research for our W&B program did NOT cost $50,000/mo or whatever it is CAL is paying out at CHQ stations for denied boarding compensation.

06-05-2007 | 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

You win. I might be able to beat all capitals, or maybe bolded, but not both...I give up.

06-05-2007 | 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

Not disagreeing, but I also know of one midwestern airline that did an "unofficial" survey following the RDU accident and found that the actual weights might be HEAVIER than the average weights suggested in the circular

. You take your chances when you do the research, because once you do an "official" weight and balance survey, you have to live with the results for a while...

06-05-2007 | 10:04 AM

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dojetdriver

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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski

When contract time comes around dont do what the FRONTIER girls did, and agree to a pay cut when airlines (Except FRONTIER

)are making more money than they ever have..................

I said it before and I'll say it again. SAAB, if you only had were old enough, mature enough, and been in this industry a while, you might know what you are talking about.

I have friends that are those "girls" at F9 that you speak of and have seen the contract, have you?

Are you sure that F9 is making money?

06-05-2007 | 10:51 AM

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JoeyMeatballs

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Originally Posted by dojetdriver

Ok I am conveying the wrong message, and I agree my posts may have seemed immature, but what I mean to say is I dont think any pilot of any airline should be taking a step backwards........whether it be in first year pay, or A/B scale....... I think that any airline that has managed to stay afloat after 9/11 has the potential to make money, and if they dont its simply because MANAGEMENTS poor decision making, not because they are paying pilots too much. paying a first year F/O $50/hr as oppsed to $32 is not going to make/break a company.............and yes I have read Frontier's contract

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