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Old 06-05-2007 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Doesnt mean the pilot group should take the pay cut.............
You're right.

It also doesn't mean they should strike for a 15% raise, either.

I don't know much about Frontier's new CBA but I don't know any pay dropped other than first year pay (which blows, but they approved that B-scale and they'll live with it). IMO the biggest thing Frontier pilots gave up was scope for Lynx...
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Old 06-05-2007 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
You're right.

It also doesn't mean they should strike for a 15% raise, either.

I don't know much about Frontier's new CBA but I don't know any pay dropped other than first year pay (which blows, but they approved that B-scale and they'll live with it). IMO the biggest thing Frontier pilots gave up was scope for Lynx...
I agree............ Im just sick of pilots taking the fault for AIRLINES MIS-MANAGAMNET.
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Old 06-05-2007 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
I agree............ Im just sick of pilots taking the fault for AIRLINES MIS-MANAGAMNET.
Aren't we all?

Reality is- it's like that in every industry. Employees get the unlubed shaft, management gets the golden parachute.
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Old 06-05-2007 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkyBN584
Realizing this is more of an XJT Circle Jerk then the decimination of any real factual information helps me sleep better at night.

My best friends sisters brothers girlfriends cousins neighbor when they were kids works down the street from a guy who knows this dude who talks to a ramp agent that said CHQ was buying Comair and Mesa is getting 737's. There's about as much factual information in that sentence as there is in the majority of "Rumor" posts you see on this website.

When CAL puts out a memo, notice, declaration...or hell, I'll even take a Citabria towing a banner over IAH...that any of what ANYONE has said is actually going to happen, I'll believe it. Until then, I'll accept that XJT guys on here are ****ed at CHQ, want to call us a buncha names and be bitter. Of course...they're ever so friendly when they need a ride home. Have at it boys.
Friendly or not, the flights probably weight restricted anyway.

Originally Posted by poor pilot
I am happy that chq is in IAH I have not had a hard stand since they came to town keep up the bad work.
Amen, the last hard stand I had as spot 100, right by the door. Other than that its all gates And if i hear another CHQ pilot put all their woes on XJT because we kept the airplanes and because they get the hard stands I am seriously gonna lay someone out right in the middle of terminal B. Hears the deal folks: XJT told Larry that we were keeping the airplanes on the deadline specified. Larry knew what that date was but he and RAH decided to jump the gun and pick which routes and stations would go to CHQ before the announcement. I know it amused Jim Ream to no end when Larry just about choked on his burger when he told him XJT was keeping the airplanes. And as far as the hardstands, XJT has been using the hard stands for YEARS! If you can explain to me how XJT can use the hard stands and still get out on time with all the people and all the bags WITH ACARS (none of this calling your own times BS), I will give you a cookie.
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Old 06-05-2007 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by contrails
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All that said, it is not entirely CHQ's fault since XJT essentially faked out Continental by keeping all 69 airplanes instead of giving them back they Continental seemed to think they would.
Thats like saying a runner who jumps the gun was faked out by the starter not pulling the trigger when they thought they would. Give me a break
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Old 06-05-2007 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
And as far as the hardstands, XJT has been using the hard stands for YEARS! If you can explain to me how XJT can use the hard stands and still get out on time with all the people and all the bags WITH ACARS (none of this calling your own times BS), I will give you a cookie.

Very true! I don't understand what CHQ's gripe with the hardstands is... they're no big deal unless you have 20 minutes to change planes, and your next gate is over at 60 or something- which wouldn't be a problem to them since they're stuck in the playpen over there anyway.

There was a rumor floating around the pipe that they're going to be using gates on a limited basis- wonder how that's gonna work out?


.... so, what kinda cookie ya got there, freezingflyboy?
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Old 06-05-2007 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CL65driver
Very true! I don't understand what CHQ's gripe with the hardstands is... they're no big deal unless you have 20 minutes to change planes, and your next gate is over at 60 or something- which wouldn't be a problem to them since they're stuck in the playpen over there anyway.

There was a rumor floating around the pipe that they're going to be using gates on a limited basis- wonder how that's gonna work out?


.... so, what kinda cookie ya got there, freezingflyboy?
CHQ has already started using some gates where NWA used to be (87-88 i think?) But they have to have a little adapter because the CRJ Can't Reach Jetways. Guess thats why they call CHQ the "special needs airline"

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Old 06-05-2007 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
CHQ has already started using some gates where NWA used to be (87-88 i think?) But they have to have a little adapter because the CRJ Can't Reach Jetways. Guess thats why they call CHQ the "special needs airline"

....any one you want from down in Gordo's. Best cookies in the airport!
hehe.... Cant Reach Jetways.... NICE!

and gordo's has some great food! dang there are some things I miss about IAH
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Old 06-05-2007 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkyBN584
Realizing this is more of an XJT Circle Jerk then the decimination of any real factual information helps me sleep better at night.

My best friends sisters brothers girlfriends cousins neighbor when they were kids works down the street from a guy who knows this dude who talks to a ramp agent that said CHQ was buying Comair and Mesa is getting 737's. There's about as much factual information in that sentence as there is in the majority of "Rumor" posts you see on this website.

When CAL puts out a memo, notice, declaration...or hell, I'll even take a Citabria towing a banner over IAH...that any of what ANYONE has said is actually going to happen, I'll believe it. Until then, I'll accept that XJT guys on here are ****ed at CHQ, want to call us a buncha names and be bitter. Of course...they're ever so friendly when they need a ride home. Have at it boys.
Most of us can't get a ride home anyway because you can't even fill all 50 seats, hell you usually can't fill 45 of them. However, this is not your fault. I as an XJET pilot realize that, and therefore am not mad at you, the CHQ pilot. As a matter of fact, I have had many friendly conversations with CHQ pilots down in IAH. I also have many friends who fly the 145s for CHQ, most are STL based. My point is I as an XJET pilot am not mad or ****ed at you the CHQ pilots. I am mad and frustrated with CAL and your jackass CEO Bedford. He gave you guys a crap operation with the CRJs, not to mention the horrible W&B program they made. What is it, like 194lbs per person in the summer and 30lbs for every bag. No wonder you can't take everyone. Oh, and it also sucks that you get paid for butts in the seats and you take people over bags. Yeah, then they have to go on XJET flights that operate behind you and it screws commuters because our flight get weight restricted due to the fact we have to take the bags you left behind. Bedford bit off more than he could chew, and his employees, XJET employees, CAL employees, and CAL customers are all suffering for what he did. ****-poor decision making, guess thats why he fits right into the airline management profile. So once again, I am not mad at you the pilot. I caught a ride on a 145 and the crew was great...we BSd the whole flight. Oh, and I am SORRY for my co-workers personal attacks. P.S. Please fight for better payrates of the E170s. Thanks
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Old 06-05-2007 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I am mad and frustrated with CAL and your jackass CEO Bedford. He gave you guys a crap operation with the CRJs, not to mention the horrible W&B program they made. What is it, like 194lbs per person in the summer and 30lbs for every bag. No wonder you can't take everyone. Oh, and it also sucks that you get paid for butts in the seats and you take people over bags. Yeah, then they have to go on XJET flights that operate behind you and it screws commuters because our flight get weight restricted due to the fact we have to take the bags you left behind.
Your blaming the CEO for the established average passenger weights? Seriously?
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