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Old 03-04-2021 | 06:29 AM
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Why do you think? At least Europe has had a flood of BS airlines flying BS routes for BS prices. They are hit the hardest because of the shear amount of frivolous leisure-ULCC’s sitting idle. You think they will be short of pilots??
Asia, maybe Latin America and Africa, not Europe. The pilot market in Europe always seems to be a poop-show from the pilot perspective.
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Old 03-04-2021 | 06:33 AM
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Newsflash. American Airlines has been doing this already. For YEARS. The flow program implemented post BK hires a candidate on DAY ONE as an American Airlines pilot.
Newsflash, they are not AA pilots but they probably will be someday if they keep their noses clean.

AA flow has been one-and-off and problematic for decades. We'll see how well it works post covid.

Are any of the current generation of AA flow actually at AA and actually not furloughed?
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Old 03-04-2021 | 06:42 AM
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Newsflash. American Airlines has been doing this already. For YEARS. The flow program implemented post BK hires a candidate on DAY ONE as an American Airlines pilot.
I swear this guy has his own bat signal that shoots into the sky every time the word “flow” is mentioned. Except, instead of being in the shape of a bat, it’s in the shape of the Kool-aid Man.
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Old 03-04-2021 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by THKooj
Newsflash. American Airlines has been doing this already. For YEARS. The flow program implemented post BK hires a candidate on DAY ONE as an American Airlines pilot.
Fair enough when discussing that AA has a flow. I will wholeheartedly disagree that we are AA pilots day one.

Even still, I think there will need to be changes to the system to make it viable for both current and future candidates. We really need to go back to the offer from 2011 when it was 50% of every AA class, regardless of size.

This would incentivize young pilots to go to a wholly owned, move more flying to mainline and offer a meaningful, realistic path to a mainline career.
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Originally Posted by THKooj
The flow program implemented post BK hires a candidate on DAY ONE as an American Airlines pilot.
and he gets to reap the rewards of that on day TWO THOUSAND....and ONE.
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Old 03-04-2021 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Newsflash, they are not AA pilots but they probably will be someday if they keep their noses clean.

AA flow has been one-and-off and problematic for decades. We'll see how well it works post covid.

Are any of the current generation of AA flow actually at AA and actually not furloughed?
they don’t even have to keep their noses that clean. One of the pitfalls of the flow, too many dirtbags making it through.
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Old 03-04-2021 | 07:54 AM
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Why do you think? At least Europe has had a flood of BS airlines flying BS routes for BS prices. They are hit the hardest because of the shear amount of frivolous leisure-ULCC’s sitting idle. You think they will be short of pilots??
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Old 03-04-2021 | 09:13 AM
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One of the pitfalls of the flow, too many dirtbags making it through.
They were probably great candidates when they were hired. Working at the WO for waaaaay too long probably turned them into “dirtbags”.
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They were probably great candidates when they were hired. Working at the WO for waaaaay too long probably turned them into “dirtbags”.
Stop making excuses, this is supposed to be a premier job, hold them to the same standards as anyone else.
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Originally Posted by bababouey
they don’t even have to keep their noses that clean. One of the pitfalls of the flow, too many dirtbags making it through.
I am sure this is a tad hyperbolic. There are dirtbag AA captains that have been there for 30 years. You can always cherry pick.
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