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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021
(Post 3313716)
I see so many pilots in all of these groups complaining about not getting the call from the legacy airlines yet.
Here are a couple questions: How often are you updating your applications? At least 3-4 times per month? Have you had your application and resume reviewed? Have you attended a job fair? How about the one this past weekend? Have you been networking to get several letters of recommendation? For anyone that is serious about going to a legacy airline but hasn't been called yet, how was the RTAG convention in San Diego this weekend. Each person in line got to have at least 10 minutes "face time" with the recruiters at AA and they went over your resume with you. If it all looked good, they took your name for an upcoming interview. United also gave you plenty of time with recruiters and many were told to expect a Hogan invite in the next couple weeks. Were you there? |
Originally Posted by DoNoHarm
(Post 3313813)
I have people tell me all the time that they aren't getting calls from the majors. But they aren't willing to put the work in, so they get what they deserve.
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3313829)
there have been many, many years when people do the work and get nothing. It’s not common (as it has been the last few months) that doing the work is a reliable path to a prompt interview
You are correct, and times change. People that have put in the work for years are getting hired right now. Those that are putting in the hard work now are next in line to get hired. The ones that are not willing to put in the hard work will be left behind. |
Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3313829)
there have been many, many years when people do the work and get nothing. It’s not common (as it has been the last few months) that doing the work is a reliable path to a prompt interview
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With all the hiring all the majors are doing now is there any hope for someone who just started or is about to start and won't be able to interview at a major for 2-4 years? Feels like the boat is sailing away. If you're lucky you might get to be the junior guy at a major for most of your career if that's when you join 3-4 years from now.
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Originally Posted by moonraker9
(Post 3315883)
With all the hiring all the majors are doing now is there any hope for someone who just started or is about to start and won't be able to interview at a major for 2-4 years? Feels like the boat is sailing away. If you're lucky you might get to be the junior guy at a major for most of your career if that's when you join 3-4 years from now.
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Originally Posted by moonraker9
(Post 3315883)
With all the hiring all the majors are doing now is there any hope for someone who just started or is about to start and won't be able to interview at a major for 2-4 years? Feels like the boat is sailing away. If you're lucky you might get to be the junior guy at a major for most of your career if that's when you join 3-4 years from now.
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Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3316002)
If you want to do this, just commit to doing the work and don’t slack up until you are where you want to be.
There is no telling when the perfect time is until it hits. Pilots were furloughed a year ago, now is a massive hiring frenzy. There is no telling what is going to happen, but the key is to be ready when the time is right. Work hard and hopefully it will all work out perfectly for you. That's really all you can do. What would be terrible is to have a great opportunity fall in your lap but you are not qualified because you have not been working hard for the last couple years. That is happening to A LOT of people that I know. They didn't want to be Check Airmen, they did't want to bother finishing up that degree that they are only a couple semesters away from completing, they didn't want to bother pushing towards getting the 1000 TPIC. They preferred to slack off and hang back. Now, their peers are all leaving for legacy airlines and they stuck at a regional and are trying to play catch up now. Those are usually the ones complaining when they see people 4 years junior to them leaving. At PSA, there are at least 11 pilots that I know of that were hired in 2018 that just got good job offers at major and legacy airlines in the last 2 months. This is at a time when 2014 hires won't even be done flowing until close to the end of 2022. |
Originally Posted by moonraker9
(Post 3315883)
With all the hiring all the majors are doing now is there any hope for someone who just started or is about to start and won't be able to interview at a major for 2-4 years? Feels like the boat is sailing away. If you're lucky you might get to be the junior guy at a major for most of your career if that's when you join 3-4 years from now.
And probably, realistically, someone starting now will miss the wave. But the majors will still hire and even being a narrowbody FO at a major is a fine job. |
Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3316099)
to the extent there’s a “normal” in the airline world, that normal is being junior for at least most of your career. Some people luck into rapid seniority progression but that’s luck.
And probably, realistically, someone starting now will miss the wave. But the majors will still hire and even being a narrowbody FO at a major is a fine job. |
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