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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
(Post 3438108)
You obviously are just buying the ALPA propaganda line. First those numbers are not complete. How many are even interested in an airline carreer? How many of those ATPs are current? How many are medicaled out? ALPA posted numbers that look very incomplete in my opinion. The FAA has acknowledged a pilot shortage. ALPA is the outlier in this.
That’s not the same a chronic shortage due to high barriers of entry. |
Originally Posted by Mytime2025
(Post 3438108)
You obviously are just buying the ALPA propaganda line. First those numbers are not complete. How many are even interested in an airline carreer? How many of those ATPs are current? How many are medicaled out? ALPA posted numbers that look very incomplete in my opinion. The FAA has acknowledged a pilot shortage. ALPA is the outlier in this.
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
(Post 3438256)
If this was really a pilot shortage and not a pay shortage, then why would AA bump their regional WOs' pay rates significantly? That action won't make more pilots.
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I m curious now about what the other regionals do.
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A shortage of pilots at a particular price point does not represent a scarcity of pilots at any price point.
Have we already forgotten the thousands of pilots who left the career early two years ago, along with the likely thousands of others who abandoned training because of those circumstances? |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 3438445)
A shortage of pilots at a particular price point does not represent a scarcity of pilots at any price point.
Have we already forgotten the thousands of pilots who left the career early two years ago, along with the likely thousands of others who abandoned training because of those circumstances? But if you boost wages to ridiculously high rates, at least in the short term, you reach a point of diminishing return. Many people who have a pilots license do not want or can not get a position flying a part 121, no matter how hire the rate is. It takes time to get more interested, and get qualified, to add to the pool. Remember after the lost decade, pilots on the sidelines in their 40s and 50s came back. That pool started drying up, after a couple of years. It was not infinite. Same with the pool they are now going after. It is elastic, but not infinitely elastic, no matter how high the pay goes. The only debate is how elastic the pool of pilots is. Stated differently, how deep is the pool, before the interested and hire-able end of the pool runs dry. |
Originally Posted by highfarfast
(Post 3438428)
I m curious now about what the other regionals do.
Join or choose to close up shop |
Originally Posted by golfandflows
(Post 3438963)
Join or choose to close up shop
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This is where unions lose all credibility by being absurd.
Should they push for better pay, work rules, and safety? Absolutely. But when they say things like this they look completely out of touch with reality. |
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