Thats actually not accurate for the AA WO's. Their AA interview was to enter the pipeline program in college, or when they started at an AA owned regional. When their seniority number gets called, they flow to AA as an intercompany transfer. Non-pilot seniority benefits transfer over as well, just nothing pilot seniority wise. The only way to not go is to have too many step letters in the previous year. Thus far, I've not heard of anybody being denied flow. AA decides on the letters, not the regional, and AA HR knows the regional managers pull that bull****. They ignore it for the most part if it's stuff like sick with Dr.notes. To them that is a legitimate sick call and shouldn't be in your file. They advertise it as 1 interview, cradle to grave.
now, if you're bending metal, that's different.

the other non owned contractors have an unguaranteed flow. They can, and do, find any reason not not flow them when they have enough qualified street applicants.

lol yes, this is true, if you get fired, you won’t flow 😂

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All you have to do if you're a guy is show up one day in operations with a dress on and high heels-----BOOM! YOU'RE IN!!!!!!!





don't forget the lipstick.

Just need to resist the temptation every time you walk past baggage claim.

Heard that a bunch of Aviate participants got kicked out with the latest arbitrary rule change to the program. Anybody have more info?

Heard it was some 400 participants that got the boot. All of which had either 2x 121 failures or 3x flight school failures.

I'm not sure about aviate, but back in the day I was one of the suckers who stuck around ExpressJet waiting for the CPP program. Passed up a bunch of great opportunities only to fail the Hogan twice. My current employer offered me an interview three years prior to when I actually got tired of the CPP shenanigans and jumped ship. That's a lot of seniority to give up. Moral of the story: don't pass up an opportunity for one of these programs. Best of luck to you all currently in the pipeline.

Are we still blacklisted from applying to United if we fly for an Aviate carrier but aren’t a part of the program? I fly for JSX and didn’t even know we were a participant.

I know right?

You shouldn't be - although good luck trying to get an answer from them.

I have a friend at Mesa who is not part of Aviate (he opted NOT to join when it was just check-the-box-and-you're-in) and he has not been precluded from applying.