idlethrust

This industry has changed dramatically since 2017. Some companies grow and adapt to the change , and put their companies in a position to grow , expand ,and offer their customers a better product some don’t (AA).

01110011

Yup.

Made sense to sign them in 2017. Makes sense to drop them in 2022 when you have hundreds of NB deliveries coming down the pipe.

OpieTaylor

Didn’t Scott cancel or delay Oscar’s 737 order? Begged the union for RJs, let Xjet go under then claim a pilot shortage. Now he puts in his own NB order in and everything is different? He wrote a letter specifically saying Rochester MN, doesn’t work with mainline, hyped everyone up as a new CEO with his detailed explanations.

Did United run the largest displacement bid during Covid? Now it’s reported United wants 400 a month.

Scott says United has the best geographic structure to succeed, then on here, a poster says he said United doesn’t have a hub monopoly like ATL or DFW.

At AA he said iPads replace seat back screens, at United they need to keep screens. At AA they need to compete with Spirt heads up, at United just run your own show with excellence, let them do them.

He seems like a lawyer that can argue both sides of a case, and on both sides of the issue make himself sound uniquely authentic. Seems like if he is a good as he wants everyone to think, he would have done better at AA or left sooner.

Chowdah

I think of you had any experience flying for either company, you’d realize that (at this moment in history), there isn’t much of a comparison between the two airlines. Kinda of like comparing united to delta in 2010.

No one is knocking AA pilots, but that airline is not in a great place. So, you can attempt to discredit SK, but it won’t make AA’s prospects look any better.

And btw, he was promised the CEO job and was fired/left the same day it came out that DP no longer intended to make good on that

AllYourBaseAreB

got a nice golden parachute without a non-compete clause though.

Qwerty123

Economics change... He didn't delay any narrowbody order at all. The economics of RJs have changed in the last 5 years. United does have the best hubs, but yeah, they don't have a monopoly on their hubs like AA and DL do. When he was at AA the whole industry was moving away from screens and then DL went all in and forced everyone else to go back.

Things change, not sure what to tell you.

rickair7777

Yeah things have changed in the last five years.

I think getting rid of screens was premature... half the traveling public (the older half, who account for 2/3 of the revenue) don't like watching movies on phones. I'm even in that camp, the bigger the better as far as screens go. If it's a movie I'm particularly interested in I'll make a point of going to the theater.

OpieTaylor

This guy said he did, and at the time it seemed like it was under to “pretext” that Scott showed up and bailed Oscar out of a bad decision.

Scott does everything with max confidence just like a pilot. His track record is AA though, so somewhat unwarranted confidence.

Maybe dumping the RJ is a good decision, but not because “We have 319s who needs 200s”. He had 319s when he signed those RJs, and was deferring 737s. The comment is just a reflection of his confidence not accuracy.

I think the TA proves it too. They clearly bought into his confidence that this was the best offer. Scott said so, and said it with confidence.