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TransWorld 02-27-2023 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 3598638)
Majors aren’t going to have lower hiring numbers this year right? Regional pilot numbers are down with lowest mins possible. Hiring has stopped at most regionals. Like a hungry vampire, aren’t the majors going to suck the host dry and drop its ematiatef corpse on the ground. How do the regionals survive and where do those hulls go? Who survives and why?

That is my perspective. Your questions are good.

bababouey 02-27-2023 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 3598638)
Majors aren’t going to have lower hiring numbers this year right? Regional pilot numbers are down with lowest mins possible. Hiring has stopped at most regionals. Like a hungry vampire, aren’t the majors going to suck the host dry and drop its ematiatef corpse on the ground. How do the regionals survive and where do those hulls go? Who survives and why?

a certain percentage will be coming from other majors, acmi, military, corporate, etc. Its a decent bet that a regional or 2 disappears as the musical chairs continue.

Excargodog 02-27-2023 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by bababouey (Post 3598722)
a certain percentage will be coming from other majors, acmi, military, corporate, etc. Its a decent bet that a regional or 2 disappears as the musical chairs continue.

Military is at a near all time low just because the military cut back their own numbers for a couple of decades now. And while second tier majors (AS, B6,NK, F9, and increasingly even SWA) continue to lose people to the Big Three, they are largely backfilling those losses from the regionals. In the end, majors can afford to hire low time FOs because they have plenty of people qualified to upgrade (although even they have open CA vacancies at less popular bases) while the regionals don’t need more zero 121 time FOs until they can get a handle on their CA losses.

Barring a recession, I’m not sure any regional is safe. Best course seems to be fly your @$$ off if you have the opportunity and grab the first major seniority number you can get, then fly your @$$ off there until you have the experience to get the seniority number from the place you really want to go. If the music stops before you get there, at least you’ll have a seniority number that will eventually be worth something. Not so if your regional goes tango uniform.

Otterbox 02-27-2023 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 3598638)
Majors aren’t going to have lower hiring numbers this year right? Regional pilot numbers are down with lowest mins possible. Hiring has stopped at most regionals. Like a hungry vampire, aren’t the majors going to suck the host dry and drop its ematiatef corpse on the ground. How do the regionals survive and where do those hulls go? Who survives and why?

Just a guess but Envoy, PSA/Piedmont, Endeavor, Republic, Skywest, Mesa.

Brickfire 02-27-2023 10:38 AM

The regionals survive because their FFD customer keeps paying the bills. All depends whether they think it’s good value compared to other options. Changes could happen abruptly as I doubt any regional is meeting its contractual targets currently.

Non-wo 50 seat carriers probably the worst bet

Twr199 02-27-2023 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 3598638)
Majors aren’t going to have lower hiring numbers this year right? Regional pilot numbers are down with lowest mins possible. Hiring has stopped at most regionals. Like a hungry vampire, aren’t the majors going to suck the host dry and drop its ematiatef corpse on the ground. How do the regionals survive and where do those hulls go? Who survives and why?

We’re all hoping so. It’s too bad it’s taking so long.

TransWorld 02-27-2023 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3598798)
Just a guess but Envoy, PSA/Piedmont, Endeavor, Republic, Skywest, Mesa.

Horizon?
…….

WarniWarni 02-28-2023 07:39 AM

gojet has about half their fleet parked rn, they'll prob be the first to go imo. Maybe air whiskey next

PorkyMcFuzz 02-28-2023 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by WarniWarni (Post 3599313)
gojet has about half their fleet parked rn, they'll prob be the first to go imo. Maybe air whiskey next

My thoughts as well. Wouldn’t be feeling too cozy at either of these.

TwoDaysBehind 03-01-2023 10:58 AM

Hopefully, as soon as United adds capacity to replace Gojet, it'll be just a painful memory. And Aviate will leave hundreds of pilots without their promised flow, and another generation of pilots will learn that all flow is fraud.


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