FAA declines Republic req to cut the 1500hrs
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Also increases the likelihood that a pilot have seen icing, made some good decisions and shown a track record of training failure or success, before flying into a thin layer of clouds in Buffalo.
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#24
There's a grain of truth in that mil helo pilots who did not complete a FW UPT program do not have the same foundational skills as those who did. Bit of a loophole, and it's left up to the airlines to deal with it. It can be an issue with landings, and this has been observed by the instructor community. I don't think it's catastrophic, or worth changing the rule over.
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Also important to highlight that all USN helicopter pilots complete fixed wing primary before going on to helo advanced, and a significant number come back for their shore tour as instructors in the T-6, racking up a lot of high quality FW TPIC.
Many incorrectly assume that a Navy helo pilot goes zero to hero in helicopters only, a la Army.
There are even some who manage to nab a set of multi engine shore orders (C-12), but it’s kinda rare.
Many incorrectly assume that a Navy helo pilot goes zero to hero in helicopters only, a la Army.
There are even some who manage to nab a set of multi engine shore orders (C-12), but it’s kinda rare.
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Also important to highlight that all USN helicopter pilots complete fixed wing primary before going on to helo advanced, and a significant number come back for their shore tour as instructors in the T-6, racking up a lot of high quality FW TPIC.
Many incorrectly assume that a Navy helo pilot goes zero to hero in helicopters only, a la Army.
There are even some who manage to nab a set of multi engine shore orders (C-12), but it’s kinda rare.
Many incorrectly assume that a Navy helo pilot goes zero to hero in helicopters only, a la Army.
There are even some who manage to nab a set of multi engine shore orders (C-12), but it’s kinda rare.
We had a steady procession of helo people coming into the navy reserves. We'd send them off to the regionals, and 6-18 months later they'd be at a legacy. The ones who had done a T-6 IP tour had the shortest wait.
#27
That's not about safety then, that's about pay and work rules. The rest requirement changes that resulted from Colgan were excellent and were a good step forward. As well as the training emphasis on stalls, prevention, and icing. But don't pretend the 1500 hour rule had anything to do with safety, there is zero evidence it did.
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That's not about safety then, that's about pay and work rules. The rest requirement changes that resulted from Colgan were excellent and were a good step forward. As well as the training emphasis on stalls, prevention, and icing. But don't pretend the 1500 hour rule had anything to do with safety, there is zero evidence it did.
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How many regional aircraft have augured in since the 1500 hour rule? That's what the public sees. That's what the FAA, Congress and other bureaucrats see as well. The 1500 hour rule is here to stay (and we are better for it).
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Fair point, I don’t know their background. But, this is good for the aviation community in general. 135 operators have had to substantially increase pay, so have flight instruction jobs. While it might take an extra year or two to build up flight time, new FOs are getting paid 5x what we did 8 years ago and not to mention getting hired by legacies in record time. I’d take that trade off!
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