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Clue32 07-04-2007 01:29 AM

Putting fingers on the glass (EFIS, TCAS, Stormscope, Radar, FMS). Come on, it leaves prints.

Leaving the stormscope in the menu mode. It doesn't do any good unless you press the 360/120 button.

Slow radio calls in busy airspace.

High time copilots who try to act like the PIC.

Advancing my powerlevers before I ask them to set power.

Refusing to hand fly the aircraft after 200ft on climb out and outside the FAF. What are they going to do when the AP fails and they have no feel for how the airplane handles?

RJ Pilot 07-04-2007 04:13 AM

FO's that do the preflight while talking on their cel..(who da foc are you talking to? your cfi buddy at Riddle? telling him how cool is to"preflight" an RJ..Duuuude iss sooo coool all the chicks are looking at me from upstairs..) Stop it. you look like a lil biaatch gossiping on the phone.

G2TT 07-04-2007 07:24 AM

All you captains, next time before you yell at your F.O. for your personal pet peeve, think back to being an F.O. If we haven't flown with you before, we have no idea what you want from us, other than SOP's. Look at these two quotes...


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 189889)
FO's that insist on hand flying all the time.(The AP does better than you)
FO's that cant do a darn visual approach.


Originally Posted by Clue32 (Post 190020)

Refusing to hand fly the aircraft after 200ft on climb out and outside the FAF. What are they going to do when the AP fails and they have no feel for how the airplane handles?

There are confilicting preferences on just about every operation of the aircraft, and an FO's biggest challenge is adapting to each person they fly with (within sop's of course). Cut us a little slack.

Bloodhound 07-04-2007 07:33 AM

As a CA, I always ask myself to 2 questions:

1. Is is unsafe?
2. Is it illegal? (FAA or company)

If I answer "no" to BOTH, I can't ***** at the FO.

blastboy 07-04-2007 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Clue32 (Post 190020)
Putting fingers on the glass (EFIS, TCAS, Stormscope, Radar, FMS). Come on, it leaves prints.

Refusing to hand fly the aircraft after 200ft on climb out and outside the FAF. What are they going to do when the AP fails and they have no feel for how the airplane handles?

Oh my god!! I hate it when people touch the screens especially on the GPS in the Seabee!!!! ARRRGGGHH!! And when people read something off my laptop they drag their finger across the screen. Good god!

I'm all about the hand flying! All about it. Whats the point of flying otherwise?

DMEarc 07-04-2007 07:53 AM

My philosophy is-

I'm going to watch my FO's like a hawk. If they do something that I don't like- they'll hear about it.

I expect them to do the same to me, watch me closely. I make mistakes, even if it's not going to effect safety of flight, it could lead to it.

Oh and Colgan FO's- get a rolling flight case, the carry-aboard ones look rediculous.

mike734 07-04-2007 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 190156)
My philosophy is-

I'm going to watch my FO's like a hawk. If they do something that I don't like- they'll hear about it.

I suggest you change your philosophy. "They'll hear about it," ain't gonna work.

elcid79 07-04-2007 08:02 AM

personally i think the rolling flight cases look rediculous, and are redundant. Here is my rollaboard suit case, with my rollaboard flight case, my rollaboard laptop case, and my rollaboard lunch sack.....

DMEarc 07-04-2007 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 190162)
I suggest you change your philosophy. "They'll hear about it," ain't gonna work.

Hold up, maybe I wasn't clear. I don't mean hear about it like I'll rip them a new one. I'll mention it, it's only to cover both of our azzes.

DMEarc 07-04-2007 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by elcid79 (Post 190164)
personally i think the rolling flight cases look rediculous, and are redundant. Here is my rollaboard suit case, with my rollaboard flight case, my rollaboard laptop case, and my rollaboard lunch sack.....

We dont do overnights at Colgan. All we have is the flight case.


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