Regional jets appear on endangered species list
11-04-2005 | 05:34 PM
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Uconn,
You are a smart and capable young man who is from a noteworthy university. Take your place among the rich and famous and find a fun and prosperous career. There is much more out there than just the cubicle. Aviation is mostly dead. Flying is fun therefore is seems like working as a pilot would be fun, but most of is not good at all. My theory is that people are attracted to aviation because they think that they are avoiding work.. Well that just isn't true. Go and get an airline job if you can. Suffer for a year or two and then get the heck out. Take lots of pictures and collect as many mementos as you can then find a real job. There are growing industries all around.
SkyHigh
You are a smart and capable young man who is from a noteworthy university. Take your place among the rich and famous and find a fun and prosperous career. There is much more out there than just the cubicle. Aviation is mostly dead. Flying is fun therefore is seems like working as a pilot would be fun, but most of is not good at all. My theory is that people are attracted to aviation because they think that they are avoiding work.. Well that just isn't true. Go and get an airline job if you can. Suffer for a year or two and then get the heck out. Take lots of pictures and collect as many mementos as you can then find a real job. There are growing industries all around.
SkyHigh
11-05-2005 | 03:02 PM
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From: Corporate Pilot
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UConn,
Well there are many other jobs out there. Pilots do well as Firefighters, Policemen, military, entrepreneurs and many other professions. And they all pay much better than flying.
SkyHigh
Well there are many other jobs out there. Pilots do well as Firefighters, Policemen, military, entrepreneurs and many other professions. And they all pay much better than flying.
SkyHigh
11-08-2005 | 03:41 PM
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Weird ???
Originally Posted by Fokker28
Weird. I'm happy flying. So are many of the people I work with.
Man it is weird to come across someone who is happy flying. You must have a great job someplace. Good for you.
SkyHigh
11-09-2005 | 07:58 PM
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I think that airlines like to hire these low time pilots because they are young, new and dont have the priorites as older people do. I may be wrong but maybe they see "new" guys as a way to exploit the system into yet lower payrates/benefits thereby reducing costs. I imagine that most people at 20-21 dont really care much about things like pay, benefits, let alone retirement!! At 21 its all about brag rights ( "Im A pilot!" ) rather than ( "Hey I get good benefits and can feed my family too!" ) - I was there too.
I mean - think about it! if you were running an airline wouldnt you want it this way?
You get all the benefits of having young employees - Low wages, Low benefit costs, and by the time they start thinking about retirement they are long gone doing something else.
Personally I don't see much change from this in the future, it seems almost as though the career of "Pilot" as we know it, is being dismantled.
Its Cheaper to Train'em than to keep'em! And lets face it - all this automation is making it much easier now more than ever - Really taking the pilot out of piloting. If anything we should want it to stay complex and challenging thereby keeping you as a valuable resource to the industry.
Nothing against young blood - I am too - just stating what I believe and the pill may be hard to swallow. I know i choked on it a few times -and it is similar to the experience of recieving a paycheck when I was flying the RJ.
I mean - think about it! if you were running an airline wouldnt you want it this way?
You get all the benefits of having young employees - Low wages, Low benefit costs, and by the time they start thinking about retirement they are long gone doing something else.
Personally I don't see much change from this in the future, it seems almost as though the career of "Pilot" as we know it, is being dismantled.
Its Cheaper to Train'em than to keep'em! And lets face it - all this automation is making it much easier now more than ever - Really taking the pilot out of piloting. If anything we should want it to stay complex and challenging thereby keeping you as a valuable resource to the industry.
Nothing against young blood - I am too - just stating what I believe and the pill may be hard to swallow. I know i choked on it a few times -and it is similar to the experience of recieving a paycheck when I was flying the RJ.
11-13-2005 | 11:49 AM
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Well, I'm over 30, and I have a family, so the 'young guy' thing doesn't apply. Our current 401(k) matches 100% up to 10%, so I would consider that a good benefit. Fair (not great) medical, dental, and vision coverage is provided. I make enough to feed my family, but my wife works too (by choice).
I just want people to know that some of us out here are happy. Maybe some of the jobs I had earlier in my life made it easier for me to appreciate my job, I don't know.
I just want people to know that some of us out here are happy. Maybe some of the jobs I had earlier in my life made it easier for me to appreciate my job, I don't know.
11-13-2005 | 12:02 PM
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From: Glass
thank god someone likes flying... i can see the new thread now
"new guys actually likes job"
it is a surefire winner as far as forum threads go... guaranteed to generate a lot of negative critiques, especially since every pilot here hates flying and is miserable flying the best the world has to offer.. funny how that works...
fokker,
ur a good lil fokker, keep up the optimism
"new guys actually likes job"
it is a surefire winner as far as forum threads go... guaranteed to generate a lot of negative critiques, especially since every pilot here hates flying and is miserable flying the best the world has to offer.. funny how that works...
fokker,
ur a good lil fokker, keep up the optimism
11-13-2005 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by iflyjets4food
They'll go back where they used to be, the TURBOPROPS. What slays me is that these 600TT pilots who think that they deserve that RJ job. All these guys that are out of a job with 20,000 hours, how did they get their start? Some military, but a lot of them came through commuter turboprops. I don't think that because someone puts in a little time as a CFI, they are automatically owed that jet job. It is making new pilots lazy. Honestly, I hope the market for pilots drops off. If there were fewer folks willing to do this job for nothing, maybe there would be a retirement and good pay. As for now, they'll keep beating the pay and benefits down like they are doing with Go-Jet. Just my thoughts, and I didn't even make you pay for them!
Let me add this:
I am pleading to all airline pilots who still believe in solidarity. Please take a few moments to visit www.GoJetPilots.com for information on the latest trend in the industry.
I implore you, please, do not allow ANY Go Jet Pilot to fly on your aircraft on a jumpseat pass. Remember Captains, it is still your aircraft and you still have the right to refuse a jumpseater.
Please, do not get complacent. The industry has taken its worse turn in history. We are the last hope. Let's give it our best shot and don't go out without a fight.
To the North West Airlines pilots: I wish you the best and I will be in the fight for you in your fight against the alter ego airline that North West is attempting to start.
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