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Old 11-06-2023, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
You are beyond clueless.

You obviously did not experience the economic landscape 40-50 years ago... good jobs were hard to find, in fact *any* job could be hard to find and I'm not talking about an 18 month downturn.

The alternative was go live at home and spend your days waiting in the union hall for your number to come up (OBTW they were slowly closing all the factories). Or join the Navy.
Huh, were people paying for a rating and getting sub $20k a year job? Was there a line out the door to get the next spot open to pay your way through training? Did scope get loosened for a few bucks on the legacy side and create the b scale that guys had gone on strike over?

I’m referring to the last 30 years really. But it seems I’ve struck a chord. I guess if the shoe fits…
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Old 11-06-2023, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by kevin18 View Post
Huh, were people paying for a rating and getting sub $20k a year job? Was there a line out the door to get the next spot open to pay your way through training? Did scope get loosened for a few bucks on the legacy side and create the b scale that guys had gone on strike over?

I’m referring to the last 30 years really. But it seems I’ve struck a chord. I guess if the shoe fits…
That's a pretty high horse for someone who is benefiting from the best employment and seniority progression landscape which has ever existed in this industry. But go ahead and take credit for having high standards and single-handedly turning the industry around for the betterment of all. World class gas-lighting.
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Old 11-06-2023, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kevin18 View Post
Huh, were people paying for a rating and getting sub $20k a year job? Was there a line out the door to get the next spot open to pay your way through training? Did scope get loosened for a few bucks on the legacy side and create the b scale that guys had gone on strike over?
The fact that you're asking indicates that you were't there.

You wouldn't really know. You're posting in ignorance.

What would you know about earning your place in this industry?
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Old 11-06-2023, 12:05 PM
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The fact that you're asking indicates that you were't there.

You wouldn't really know. You're posting in ignorance.

What would you know about earning your place in this industry?
Oh man, ruffled feathers with this one.

I guess you’re unfamiliar with asking questions you already know the answers to…

I was in the job market in the 90s, didn’t pick aviation at the time. Wasn’t worth it. Still wouldn’t have been without a signing bonus. Yeah, the money is high because the people weren’t showing up.
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Old 11-06-2023, 01:04 PM
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Oh man, ruffled feathers with this one.

I guess you’re unfamiliar with asking questions you already know the answers to…

I was in the job market in the 90s, didn’t pick aviation at the time. Wasn’t worth it. Still wouldn’t have been without a signing bonus. Yeah, the money is high because the people weren’t showing up.
My feathers aren't ruffled in the least. Unlike you, whatever you were doing in the 90's, I was an active pilot, just as I am now. I was an active pilot before the 90's, too. No need for you t apologize for your lack of experience, but perhaps so for your ignorance. It's not a good look.

Your understanding of the industry, and the economic forces that moved it, is lacking. Then again, you weren't there.
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Old 11-06-2023, 01:26 PM
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It once took 3000 hours total time and 500 multi to get a regional give you a look. 1500 is a cakewalk compared to years ago.
Yup, been there, done that. Had 5,000 hours before I saw the inside of a jet. Lots of hours flying single engine air taxi in Alaska to build experience
and hours. Then down to the Caribbean islands to build twin time, then twin PIC, then turbine, etc.
With DC-3 and Twin Otter left side time, and the 5k hours, Evergreen offered me a DC-8 slot flying the Air India Cargo wet lease contract.
Lots of work, lots of fun and good old days,
Seems easy now, stumble into any regional with 1,500 hours and they train you on a jet AND give you a signing bonus as well as promise to flow
to a Legacy within a few years.
I am retired now and enjoyed my 15 flying jobs starting as a CFI and ending up on a classic 747 in the left seat, it was a blast.
​​​​​​​Totally different now, wow..
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Old 11-15-2023, 06:27 AM
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There’s tons of student flying at my local airport, I was there recently and I’d never seen anything like it. Supply is coming but it will be interesting to see what happens at the regionals.
Mine too. It's like the early 80's again in number of operations. Prices on used planes has skyrocketed also. Used to be able to grab a decent C172 for around $40k. Now they're $150k.
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Dude. I just went and looked at the listings for 172s. WHAT THE HELL?!
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:09 AM
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Dude. I just went and looked at the listings for 172s. WHAT THE HELL?!
LOL, I was airplane shopping last year, very frustrating. Then a I googled boats on a whim... you can get a lot of boat for the price of a plane these days.
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No kidding. The last time I was dream shopping planes was 5 years ago. Wild.
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