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Old 07-25-2007, 07:00 PM   #1  
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Default American Eagle lines @ LAX

If I were to get hired by American Eagle and choose LAX, are the lines on the Saab 340 and the ERJ commutable? It sounds like I would probably end up on the Saab 340. What is a typical line like as far as the flying? I would be commuting from LAS, so a short commute with plenty of daily flights and I would probably get a crash pad if necessary in the beginning. Thanks.
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For August there are 26 hard line for LAX Saab, and 12 additional Reserve, relief and composite. Here are the last 6 hard lines:

Sorry, the formating doesn't translate very well, from the .txt document to APC's boards.
KEY:
Date
Day
Pairing #, Line #, Days Off
Layover City Code, X = day off, : = weekend day off, Pay value of line, Flight hours of line
Pairing #, First flight #, show time/end time, per diem, Carry over (to next month)


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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5
WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE
117 117 117 117 117 BLK NO. 421 DYS OFF 12
FATSBAMRYLAX : X X FATSBAMRYLAX : X X FATSBAMRYLAX : X X FATSBAMRYLAX : X X FATSBAMRYLAX CRD. 81.30 BLK. 81.30
117= 3037 1600/1255; TAFB 307.40 C/O 8.55
SFW 81:30
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5
WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE
104 117 117 117 117 BLK NO. 422 DYS OFF 12
SBALAX X : FATSBAMRYLAX X X : FATSBAMRYLAX X X : FATSBAMRYLAX X X : FATSBAMRYLAX X CRD. 81.55 BLK. 81.55
104= 3063 0535/1715;117= 3037 1600/1255; TAFB 311.20 C/O 0.00
SFW 81:55
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5
WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE
102102 117 117 117 117 BLK NO. 423 DYS OFF 12
X LAXLAX : : FATSBAMRYLAX X : : FATSBAMRYLAX X : : FATSBAMRYLAX X : : FATSBAMRYLAX CRD. 86.20 BLK. 86.20
102= 3005 1200/2235;117= 3037 1600/1255; TAFB 296.50 C/O 0.00
SFW 86:20
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5
WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE
108 117 117 117 117 BLK NO. 424 DYS OFF 12
SBPSANLAX : : X FATSBAMRYLAX : : X FATSBAMRYLAX : : X FATSBAMRYLAX : : X FATSBAMRYLAX CRD. 79.20 BLK. 79.20
108= 3009 1930/1625;117= 3037 1600/1255; TAFB 307.40 C/O 4.45
SFW 79:20
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AUGUST LAX SFW PILOTS DOMICILE: LAX SFW
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5
WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE
104 100 112 112 112 112 BLK NO. 425 DYS OFF 12
X SBALAXLAX : X SANSBPSANLAX : : X SANSBPSANLAX : : X SANSBPSANLAX : : X SANSBPSANLAX CRD. 84.25 BLK. 84.25
104= 3063 0535/1715;100= 3063 0535/1220;112= 3083 1415/1625; TAFB 322.40 C/O 5.50
SFW 84:25
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5
WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE TH FR SA SU MO TU WE
103 109 121 109 121 114 BLK NO. 426 DYS OFF 12
LAX X X SBPSBPFATLAX X X SANSBAMRYLAX X X X X SBPSBPFATLAX X X SANSBAMRYLAX X X FATFATSBALAX CRD. 79.05 BLK. 77.35
103= 3077 1515/2235;109= 3033 1050/1400;121=D3095 1900/1255;114= 3023 1430/1155; TAFB 299.00 C/O 14.20
SFW 79:05

Most of these lines look surprisingly commutable, most look commutable on both ends. And these are the worst hard lines in the base. But 1/3rd of all LAX Saab lines are still junior to these...

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Here are some of the pairings for those lines, once again the .txt file doesn't translate too well...

KEY:
Day, Flt#, ORIG-DEST, DEP, ARR, Block time, Turn time, Eqip Type.
The last line of the day adds, Block time, DeadHead time, Credit, Duty time, Layover city, Rest time.
The Line beginning D-END shows, Off duty time, Normal, Reduced or Compensatory Rest, Next Day Report time, and overnight hotel.


16117 EXCEPT FRI SAT REPORTS- 1600L OPERATES- AUG. 01-AUG. 30
Base/Equipment: LAX/SFW CA01FO01FA01
DAY DH C FLTNO DPS-ARS DEPL ARRL BLKT GRNT TBLK TDHD TCRD TPAY TDUTY LAYOVER
1 3037 LAX-SBA 1645 1730 45 45 SFW
1 3010 SBA-LAX 1815 1905 50 25 SFW
1 3095 LAX-SAN 1930 2030 100 25 SFW
1 3096 SAN-LAX 2055 2145 50 25 SFW
1 3021 LAX-FAT 2210 2325 115 SFW 440 0 440 0 740 FAT 1420
D-END: 2340L (NR 900) REPT: 1400L HOLIDAY INN FRESNO AIRPORT (559) 252-3611
2 3020 FAT-LAX 1445 1600 115 125 SFW
2 3017 LAX-FAT 1725 1840 115 25 SFW
2 3050 FAT-LAX 1905 2020 115 25 SFW
2 3035 LAX-SBA 2045 2130 45 SFW 430 0 430 0 745 SBA 1530
D-END: 2145L (NR 900) REPT: 1315L SANDMAN HOTEL (805) 687-2468
3 3042 SBA-LAX 1400 1450 50 135 SFW
3 3085 LAX-SAN 1625 1725 100 40 SFW
3 3086 SAN-LAX 1805 1855 50 25 SFW
3 3031 LAX-MRY 1920 2050 130 SFW 410 0 410 0 750 MRY 845
D-END: 2105L (RR 800) REPT: 0550L MARRIOTT HOTEL (831) 649-4234
4 3026 MRY-LAX 0635 0815 140 55 SFW
4 3025 LAX-MRY 0910 1040 130 25 SFW
4 3028 MRY-LAX 1105 1240 135 SFW 445 0 445 0 705
D-END: 1255L (CR 1100) --------------------------------------


TOTALS BLOCK 1805 T.A.F.B. 6855 SFW>18:05

16104 EXCEPT SAT REPORTS- 0535L OPERATES- AUG. 01-AUG. 30
Base/Equipment: LAX/SFW CA01FO01FA01

1 3063 LAX-SAN 0620 0725 105 25 SFW
1 3060 SAN-LAX 0750 0845 55 110 SFW
1 3041 LAX-SBA 0955 1045 50 30 SFW
1 3040 SBA-LAX 1115 1205 50 40 SFW
1 3043 LAX-SBA 1245 1335 50 SFW 430 0 430 0 815 SBA 1605
D-END: 1350L (NR 900) REPT: 0555L SANDMAN HOTEL (805) 687-2468
2 3034 SBA-LAX 0640 0735 55 105 SFW
2 3011 LAX-FAT 0840 0955 115 30 SFW
2 3016 FAT-LAX 1025 1140 115 315 SFW
2 3081 LAX-SBA 1455 1545 50 25 SFW
2 3082 SBA-LAX 1610 1700 50 SFW 505 0 505 0 1120
D-END: 1715L --------------------------------------


TOTALS BLOCK 935 T.A.F.B. 3540 SFW> 9:35
16102 D A I L Y REPORTS- 1200L OPERATES- AUG. 02-AUG. 30
Base/Equipment: LAX/SFW CA01FO01FA01

1 3005 LAX-SBP 1245 1350 105 30 SFW
1 3072 SBP-LAX 1420 1525 105 35 SFW
1 3077 LAX-MRY 1600 1730 130 30 SFW
1 3078 MRY-LAX 1800 1930 130 35 SFW
1 3097 LAX-SAN 2005 2105 100 25 SFW
1 3056 SAN-LAX 2130 2220 50 SFW 700 0 700 0 1035
D-END: 2235L --------------------------------------


AUGUST 2007 LAX SAAB PILOT TRIP PAIRINGS
DAY DH C FLTNO DPS-ARS DEPL ARRL BLKT GRNT TBLK TDHD TCRD TPAY TDUTY LAYOVER

16108 ONLY ON WED REPORTS- 1930L OPERATES- AUG. 01 ONLY
Base/Equipment: LAX/SFW CA01FO01FA01

WE 3009 LAX-SBP 2015 2115 100 SFW 100 0 100 0 200 SBP 1005
D-END: 2130L (NR 900) REPT: 0735L OXFORD SUITES (805) 773-3773
TH 3004 SBP-LAX 0820 0935 115 25 SFW
TH 3013 LAX-FAT 1000 1120 120 25 SFW
TH 3052 FAT-LAX 1145 1300 115 100 SFW
TH 3067 LAX-SAN 1400 1505 105 SFW 455 0 455 0 745 SAN 1425
D-END: 1520L (NR 900) REPT: 0545L SHERATON HOTEL & MARINA (619) 291-2900
FR 3062 SAN-LAX 0630 0720 50 110 SFW
FR 3047 LAX-SAN 0830 0935 105 25 SFW
FR 3046 SAN-LAX 1000 1055 55 125 SFW
FR 3027 LAX-MRY 1220 1350 130 50 SFW
FR 3030 MRY-LAX 1440 1610 130 SFW 550 0 550 0 1040
D-END: 1625L --------------------------------------


TOTALS BLOCK 1145 T.A.F.B. 4455 SFW>11:45
TOTALS BLOCK 700 T.A.F.B. 1035 (LANDINGS 6) SFW> 7:00


AUGUST 2007 LAX SAAB PILOT TRIP PAIRINGS
DAY DH C FLTNO DPS-ARS DEPL ARRL BLKT GRNT TBLK TDHD TCRD TPAY TDUTY LAYOVER

16100 ONLY ON SAT REPORTS- 0535L OPERATES- AUG. 04-AUG. 25
Base/Equipment: LAX/SFW CA01FO01FA01

SA 3063 LAX-SAN 0620 0725 105 25 SFW
SA 3060 SAN-LAX 0750 0845 55 110 SFW
SA 3041 LAX-SBA 0955 1045 50 30 SFW
SA 3040 SBA-LAX 1115 1205 50 SFW 340 0 340 0 645
D-END: 1220L --------------------------------------


AUGUST 2007 LAX SAAB PILOT TRIP PAIRINGS
DAY DH C FLTNO DPS-ARS DEPL ARRL BLKT GRNT TBLK TDHD TCRD TPAY TDUTY LAYOVER

16112 EXCEPT THU FRI REPORTS- 1415L OPERATES- AUG. 04-AUG. 29
Base/Equipment: LAX/SFW CA01FO01FA01

1 3083 LAX-SAN 1500 1605 105 25 SFW
1 3092 SAN-LAX 1630 1720 50 55 SFW
1 3093 LAX-SAN 1815 1915 100 50 SFW
1 3094 SAN-LAX 2005 2055 50 40 SFW
1 3059 LAX-SAN 2135 2235 100 SFW 445 0 445 0 835 SAN 1605
D-END: 2250L (NR 900) REPT: 1455L SHERATON HOTEL & MARINA (619) 291-2900
2 3068 SAN-LAX 1540 1630 50 40 SFW
2 3089 LAX-SAN 1710 1815 105 35 SFW
2 3090 SAN-LAX 1850 1940 50 35 SFW
2 3009 LAX-SBP 2015 2115 100 SFW 345 0 345 0 635 SBP 1005
D-END: 2130L (NR 1000) REPT: 0735L OXFORD SUITES (805) 773-3773
3 3004 SBP-LAX 0820 0935 115 25 SFW
3 3013 LAX-FAT 1000 1120 120 25 SFW
3 3052 FAT-LAX 1145 1300 115 100 SFW
3 3067 LAX-SAN 1400 1505 105 SFW 455 0 455 0 745 SAN 1425
D-END: 1520L (NR 900) REPT: 0545L SHERATON HOTEL & MARINA (619) 291-2900
4 3062 SAN-LAX 0630 0720 50 110 SFW
4 3047 LAX-SAN 0830 0935 105 25 SFW
4 3046 SAN-LAX 1000 1055 55 125 SFW
4 3027 LAX-MRY 1220 1350 130 50 SFW
4 3030 MRY-LAX 1440 1610 130 SFW 550 0 550 0 1040
D-END: 1625L --------------------------------------


TOTALS BLOCK 1915 T.A.F.B. 7410 SFW>19:15
TOTALS BLOCK 340 T.A.F.B. 645 (LANDINGS 4) SFW> 3:40

16109 ONLY ON SAT REPORTS- 1050L OPERATES- AUG. 04-AUG. 25
Base/Equipment: LAX/SFW CA01FO01FA01

SA 3033 LAX-SBA 1135 1225 50 25 SFW
SA 3032 SBA-LAX 1250 1345 55 205 SFW
SA 3055 LAX-SAN 1550 1650 100 25 SFW
SA 3054 SAN-LAX 1715 1805 50 50 SFW
SA 3007 LAX-SBP 1855 1955 100 SFW 435 0 435 0 920 SBP 1125
D-END: 2010L (NR 900) REPT: 0735L OXFORD SUITES (805) 773-3773
SU 3004 SBP-LAX 0820 0935 115 155 SFW
SU 3049 LAX-SAN 1130 1230 100 30 SFW
SU 3048 SAN-LAX 1300 1350 50 200 SFW
SU 3055 LAX-SAN 1550 1650 100 25 SFW
SU 3054 SAN-LAX 1715 1805 50 50 SFW
SU 3007 LAX-SBP 1855 1955 100 SFW 555 0 555 0 1235 SBP 1030
D-END: 2010L (NR 900) REPT: 0640L OXFORD SUITES (805) 773-3773
MO 3002 SBP-LAX 0725 0835 110 115 SFW
MO 3057 LAX-SBP 0950 1055 105 35 SFW
MO 3006 SBP-LAX 1130 1235 105 25 SFW
MO 3015 LAX-FAT 1300 1420 120 SFW 440 0 440 0 755 FAT 1430
D-END: 1435L (NR 900) REPT: 0505L HOLIDAY INN FRESNO AIRPORT (559) 252-3611
TU 3012 FAT-LAX 0550 0700 110 100 SFW
TU 3039 LAX-SBA 0800 0850 50 25 SFW
TU 3038 SBA-LAX 0915 1005 50 130 SFW
TU 3033 LAX-SBA 1135 1225 50 25 SFW
TU 3032 SBA-LAX 1250 1345 55 SFW 435 0 435 0 855
D-END: 1400L --------------------------------------

16121 ONLY ON FRI REPORTS- 1900L OPERATES- AUG. 03-AUG. 24
Base/Equipment: LAX/SFW CA01FO01FA01

FR DH 3095 LAX-SAN 1930 2030 100 25 SFW
FR 3096 SAN-LAX 2055 2145 50 45 SFW
FR 3061 LAX-SAN 2230 2325 55 SFW 145 45 230 0 440 SAN 1235
D-END: 2340L (NR 900) REPT: 1215L SHERATON HOTEL & MARINA (619) 291-2900
SA 3048 SAN-LAX 1300 1350 50 335 SFW
SA 3017 LAX-FAT 1725 1840 115 25 SFW
SA 3050 FAT-LAX 1905 2020 115 25 SFW
SA 3035 LAX-SBA 2045 2130 45 SFW 405 0 405 0 930 SBA 1530
D-END: 2145L (NR 900) REPT: 1315L SANDMAN HOTEL (805) 687-2468
SU 3042 SBA-LAX 1400 1450 50 135 SFW
SU 3085 LAX-SAN 1625 1725 100 40 SFW
SU 3086 SAN-LAX 1805 1855 50 25 SFW
SU 3031 LAX-MRY 1920 2050 130 SFW 410 0 410 0 750 MRY 845
D-END: 2105L (RR 800) REPT: 0550L MARRIOTT HOTEL (831) 649-4234
MO 3026 MRY-LAX 0635 0815 140 55 SFW
MO 3025 LAX-MRY 0910 1040 130 25 SFW
MO 3028 MRY-LAX 1105 1240 135 SFW 445 0 445 0 705
D-END: 1255L (CR 1100) --------------------------------------
TOTALS BLOCK 1445 DHD 45 CREDIT HRS. 1530 T.A.F.B. 6555 SFW>15:30
TOTALS BLOCK 1945 T.A.F.B. 7510 SFW>19:45
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Wow! Thanks for the information. Even with the key I am having some trouble deciphering the info though. In your opinion would this be commutable from LAS once you can hold a line? Thanks again.
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Yeah man. I am in LAX and commute from Washington. Alaska does a pretty good job in helping me out. For August there are only 2 people on reserve, everyone else got lines. There are people getting off IOE so they will be joining the fun. The flying is great and the captains are wonderful to fly with.
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From LAS? Yeah. There's like 40 flights a day from LAS to LAX. 630 am to 1145pm. I don't remember seeing a route with more nonstop service, anywhere, ever.
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Thanks, that's what I thought too. LAX would be a first choice for me due to the close proximity to my home. I will throw in my application.
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Do you want a internal reference? I will splint the $$$ with you.
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Wow, sounds like you will become REAL familiar with FAT, MRY, SBA, SAN and LAX.
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Do you want a internal reference? I will splint the $$$ with you.
Sounds good. I am out of town until Tues. and will start working on it when I get back.
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