After reading the update your union sent out yesterday, I'd say the company's support of your pilot group is a resounding ZERO...kinda like most other places.

Also I thought there were at least couple dozen J4J guys at RAH?

 

It seems like no one ever gets sick of this "my regional is better than your regional" thread.

EVERY regional has something that the other doesn't have, and that is what should be the deciding factor when you decide to apply for a job. SkyWest doesn't have a union. If you feel a union is important, go somewhere that has one. RAH has a commuter policy, SkyWest doesn't. If you are going to commute and feel that is important, go somewhere that has a commuter policy. Mesa and Trans States hire at 250, if you have 250 and don't mind being abused, go to those two. If you want to be properly compensated, but don't want to upgrade for six years, go to Horizon. If you enjoyed being hated and made fun of as a kid, go to gojet.

Every regional has some little niche that in the eye of worker makes it better than the other. Trans States has a better drop policy than SkyWest, but they are far from being a comparison to SkyWest.

Please just leave the "my regional is better than your regional" conversation alone. I am happy at SkyWest flying for less than what Horizon, XJet, RAH, etc., is paid. Big ... deal.

I think anyone who has gone from Mesa or Trans States to another regional will consider the latter airline "top tier"!

 

Where did you get a copy of that update?

 

From one of the 50+ folks I know that work there...

 

a couple of dozen is nothing compared to the hundreds of flow backs i had at eagle

 

Where is that picture of the kid winning the special olympics... it reminds me of this arguement. Even if you're the best regional, youre still retarded

 

The J4J guys are about to leave which is a good thing. Will open another 70 or so captain slots. The union is the union. They make a few wins. LIke I said, some guys would complain if you hung them with a new rope. I find our pilot group to very a tightly knit one that keeps the pressure on the company better than the union does. I almost hate to say this but republicpilots.org is the best thing we've got. Makes it easier to trade trips, swap days off, grievance something, find someone to help with an issue etc.

I feel the answer is simple. RAH is top tier because they are still raising the industry standard instead of sitting at it or lowering it. Our contract is old and didn't include 170's. The new one should and I think we'll be happy with it.

 

I've never bashed RAH, its pilots or the CBA there, although I have commented many times on how I greatly lament the FO b-scale there, especially for 50+ seats. I wanted to work at RAH for no less than 3 full years for QOL reasons, including my first 8 months at AWAC, and I have several dozen friends in both seats at all three certificates there.

CHQ pilots made some serious sacrifices in 2003 to secure one list scope (the benefit of which has been made clear) and yet improved their pay and workrules in one of, if not the, most difficult negotiating environment in airline history.

With all that said, simply I fail to see how your 2003 CBA is "still raising the industry standard". This is not a bash on your company or pilot group...but I would like you to provide some examples to justify that statement.