travelJunky

Keep in mind that this is all short term flying for Delta. They also know what kind of product is delivered by cheap carriers like Mesa and Pinnacle. Pinnacle manages to operate at one of the higest profit margins (see yahoo finance) and lowest operating costs (labor). Way to go!

PCL_128

Don't know what you're talking about. Pinnacle has the highest on-time percentage and completion factor of any CRJ-200 operator. They also held that distinction for Saab operator when they operated Saab 340s. Pinnacle offers an excellent CRJ product, even though they are cheap. Can't say the same for Mesa.

BoilerUP

True, and this is a testament to the hard-working folks at 9E. You gotta admit though, the location of Northwest's hubs is a HUGE contributing factor in this.

US Airways' operation is f'ed up, but that's not the only reason, or even the main reason, their on-time performace sucks. PHL, LGA, BOS, 30 mile finals in CLT at 150kts play a HUGE role in this.

PCL_128

Ever been to DTW? If there's even a cloud somewhere over Youngstown, OH, then you can expect to turn base sometime after passing Pontiac, MI on downwind to DTW.

Seriously, though, you're right about USAir's route system playing a role. Any route system that depends so heavily on connecting flights through PHL or LGA is going to incur huge delays and cancellations on a regular basis.

BoilerUP

I've been to DTW a ton recently...the Four Points is SWEET since they renovated it, and there's a Starbucks right beside our gate.

I love it when the DTW approach controllers issue us 22R, have us turn a 12 mile base at 10,000 and THEN give us a descent while asking "can you make it down?"

Flyer00

First, the comment of stop accepting subpar wages was meant to be something for all of us to remember, including the people STILL locked in negotiations. But since this got spun into me apparently attacking 9E, here goes...

[/QUOTE]For starters, virtually no one is left at Pinnacle that was around back in 2000 when the current agreement was negotiated. No one from that MEC and one member of the NC from that period is still involved. Also, the rates negotiated at that time were industry-average rates.[/QUOTE]

Do you recall ANY of the contracts that places like Comair, ASA, AWAC, XJET signed around 2000? What Pinnacle accepted back then wasn't industry average. But I guess if only being average is what you were shooting for...

Exactly! So just remember...EVERYONE (not just Pinnacle) needs to stop accepting sub-par rates!! Learn from the past, otherwise we are all doomed to repeat the past.

Like Boiler said, that reflects on the workforce. But when all of the hubs you operate out of have 72+% on-time performance factors, as reported for YTD by the DOT, I would certainly hope so! I'd take DTW any day over any of the east coast airports.

Xjet is only a few points behind 9E, and they get the pleasure of dealing with EWR that has a 56% on-time factor, that is impressive. Even PHL has a 65% on-time rate and that place blows!

PCL_128

The CMR and AWAC contracts were signed in '01, one year after the PCL agreement. The XJET contract was signed in '03, three years after the PCL agreement. The ASA agreement was signed just a bit before the PCL contract, but if you look at the rates, they're pretty danged close with the exception of the 2nd and 3rd year FO rates. You may not like it, but the fact remains that the agreement signed at PCL was industry-standard at the time it was signed.

jmack

think he's talkin bout the high percentages of bent up CRJ's and runway overruns. but just my guess.
"welcome to the grassy side of the runway, we will deplane into a crew bus shortly, the good news is we are on time"