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08-19-2007 | 10:17 PM
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Skyhigh your ingnorance, short sightedness and ability to take only the negatives of something and make them sound like the whole story amazes me. keep at it, maybe youre saving somone the same misery as you have endured and continue not to move past.
08-20-2007 | 05:53 AM
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Move past
SkyHigh
08-20-2007 | 08:16 AM
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Flying magazine and AOPA are geared towards those interested in and involved with general aviation (for the most part)
You are confusing the content of the magazine with the glossy ads for Pilot-Mill-Of-The-Month. Les Abend and the late Gordon Baxter are and were Flying's only connection to the 121 world, I believe.
I'm not really sure of what slanted agenda you speak...(unless you're one of those that think that Grandpa Joe in his J-3 Cub and Uncle Bob in his rebuilt Stinson are polluting the airspace)
You are confusing the content of the magazine with the glossy ads for Pilot-Mill-Of-The-Month. Les Abend and the late Gordon Baxter are and were Flying's only connection to the 121 world, I believe.
I'm not really sure of what slanted agenda you speak...(unless you're one of those that think that Grandpa Joe in his J-3 Cub and Uncle Bob in his rebuilt Stinson are polluting the airspace)
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08-20-2007 | 09:35 PM
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AOPA and Flying
Flying magazine and AOPA are geared towards those interested in and involved with general aviation (for the most part)
You are confusing the content of the magazine with the glossy ads for Pilot-Mill-Of-The-Month. Les Abend and the late Gordon Baxter are and were Flying's only connection to the 121 world, I believe.
I'm not really sure of what slanted agenda you speak...(unless you're one of those that think that Grandpa Joe in his J-3 Cub and Uncle Bob in his rebuilt Stinson are polluting the airspace)
You are confusing the content of the magazine with the glossy ads for Pilot-Mill-Of-The-Month. Les Abend and the late Gordon Baxter are and were Flying's only connection to the 121 world, I believe.
I'm not really sure of what slanted agenda you speak...(unless you're one of those that think that Grandpa Joe in his J-3 Cub and Uncle Bob in his rebuilt Stinson are polluting the airspace)
Nearly every other page has an ad for an aviation college or flight academy. Flight Training magazine has an article in most every issue about some aspect of becoming an airline pilot.
GA is dying. The only game left is the career minded newbie. Flying and Flight Training only exsist as a marketing vehicle for pilot mills. All those publications are in the business of selling a fantasy.
SkyHigh
08-21-2007 | 01:29 AM
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I read truth into SkyHigh's posts. It is what it is.
I just have a ppl, but I have an incredible desire to see how far I can go with flying, including flying for the airlines someday. Moreover, life is so short, and I can't imagine not even trying to make my dreams come true. Unfortunately I'll pay a heavy financial price. Well, at least I understand this before going in at full speed. I don't think I'll regret it though.
I just have a ppl, but I have an incredible desire to see how far I can go with flying, including flying for the airlines someday. Moreover, life is so short, and I can't imagine not even trying to make my dreams come true. Unfortunately I'll pay a heavy financial price. Well, at least I understand this before going in at full speed. I don't think I'll regret it though.
08-21-2007 | 06:10 AM
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I am sorry
I read truth into SkyHigh's posts. It is what it is.
I just have a ppl, but I have an incredible desire to see how far I can go with flying, including flying for the airlines someday. Moreover, life is so short, and I can't imagine not even trying to make my dreams come true. Unfortunately I'll pay a heavy financial price. Well, at least I understand this before going in at full speed. I don't think I'll regret it though.
I just have a ppl, but I have an incredible desire to see how far I can go with flying, including flying for the airlines someday. Moreover, life is so short, and I can't imagine not even trying to make my dreams come true. Unfortunately I'll pay a heavy financial price. Well, at least I understand this before going in at full speed. I don't think I'll regret it though.
Aviators Disease is akin to alcoholism, smoking or a crack addiction. It results in an unrealistic obsession to pursue an aviation career to the destruction of everything else in the lives of the afflicted. The only treatment is to attempt to become an alcoholic or drug user in its place. Chemical dependency at least has the courtesy to kill its addicted in the end.
Aviation takes away everything but leaves you alert and coherent to live out the remainder of your life with the devastation and life void the disease has created.
SkyHigh
08-21-2007 | 06:27 AM
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Neverland?
If that's true, then they are probably better off remaining in aviation. Should they leave for another profession, (a decision which gradually becomes irrevokable), are they not likely to end up bitterly surveying their many possessions and spoiled children, while gazing wistfully at the sky?
It's not enough to know the relative pay and working conditions; one must, as the ancient Greeks said, "know thyself". In Barrie's story, both Wendy and Peter Pan made the right decision.
08-21-2007 | 06:48 AM
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Sky,
If that's true, then they are probably better off remaining in aviation. Should they leave for another profession, (a decision which gradually becomes irrevokable), are they not likely to end up bitterly surveying their many possessions and spoiled children, while gazing wistfully at the sky?
It's not enough to know the relative pay and working conditions; one must, as the ancient Greeks said, "know thyself". In Barrie's story, both Wendy and Peter Pan made the right decision.
If that's true, then they are probably better off remaining in aviation. Should they leave for another profession, (a decision which gradually becomes irrevokable), are they not likely to end up bitterly surveying their many possessions and spoiled children, while gazing wistfully at the sky?
It's not enough to know the relative pay and working conditions; one must, as the ancient Greeks said, "know thyself". In Barrie's story, both Wendy and Peter Pan made the right decision.
It seems to me that in effort of avoiding getting a real job pilots often end up working the hardest of all for the least return.
People are stalked by many different plagues in their life; excessive spending, alcoholism, smoking, gambeling, obesity, ect... It is up to us to decide if we shall let ourselves fall prey to our demons or make an effort to save ourselves.
It has been over 17 years since I last lit up a cigarette but whenever I am near a smoker those ancient longings are stirred up. We all have things we must resist in life for a better tomorrow. Aviation is no different.
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08-21-2007 | 07:02 AM
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It seems to me that in effort of avoiding getting a real job pilots often end up working the hardest of all for the least return.
People are stalked by many different plagues in their life; alcoholism, smoking, obesity, ect... It is up to us to decide if we shall let ourselves fall prey to our demons or make an effort to save ourselves.
It has been over 17 years since I last lit up a cigarette but whenever I am near a smoker those ancient longings are stirred up. We all have things we must resist in life for a better tomorrow. Aviation is no different.
Skyhigh
People are stalked by many different plagues in their life; alcoholism, smoking, obesity, ect... It is up to us to decide if we shall let ourselves fall prey to our demons or make an effort to save ourselves.
It has been over 17 years since I last lit up a cigarette but whenever I am near a smoker those ancient longings are stirred up. We all have things we must resist in life for a better tomorrow. Aviation is no different.
Skyhigh
08-21-2007 | 07:08 AM
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Hmph...
Nurses don't do the dirty work, they get techs and LPNs to do it.
As a firefighter of 11 years, I can tell you we don't get paid crap unless we're also an advanced life support provider (paramedic). Long crazy hours, away from home often, low pay (especially for the work being done!), the resentment by political administrations for what they perceive as "lazy people sitting around a firehouse all the time" while they're trying to get rid of us, sound familiar?
So after 11 years, I'm changing careers. Not by choice, but because some kid volunteer firefighters decided to do something incorrectly and I got hurt. It's not enough to keep me from doing most things out there, but I'm now unable to go back to the physically demanding work that I used to do.
Nurses don't do the dirty work, they get techs and LPNs to do it.
As a firefighter of 11 years, I can tell you we don't get paid crap unless we're also an advanced life support provider (paramedic). Long crazy hours, away from home often, low pay (especially for the work being done!), the resentment by political administrations for what they perceive as "lazy people sitting around a firehouse all the time" while they're trying to get rid of us, sound familiar?
So after 11 years, I'm changing careers. Not by choice, but because some kid volunteer firefighters decided to do something incorrectly and I got hurt. It's not enough to keep me from doing most things out there, but I'm now unable to go back to the physically demanding work that I used to do.
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