The Shorts 360 could NOT go down AND slow down ... it was one or the other ...

Couldn't even push the props up to slow ... had to already be below 150K, which you weren't above very often anyway !

 

Lol is that a joke ..2,000 AGL try 9,000 downwind into BWI and put it in the middle of two 737's. Don't forget the Dash decends like an elevator.

All my respect to the Dash drivers.

 

For me the Dash was and will always be the most interesting plane to fly. Every other plane becomes a computer game and I consider myself now as a swith manipulator, computer operator and so on.
Go Dash drivers and Piedmonsters.

 

Concur. I don't want to say it's not much like flying anymore, but compared to the 8, well, it's not much like flying anymore.

 

you guys are making me even more excited than i am already.....i'll be starting on the dash in 2 weeks

 

Flew the Dash for 6 years. It was the most capable airplane that I've flown. Since I've flow the E-170, 747-4, and now MD-11 training, but the best pilots I've flown with were the Dash-8 pilots with ALG. Really miss flying with those older experienced guys. I would put the old ALG captains up against any of the guys that I've flown with since. That includes myself, since leaving that airplane my skills have gone. Now it's just pushing buttons. Miss the Dash-8 and the ALG guys (now pdt).

 

I know what you mean buggs... when I first flew the ATR.... most of the CA's were old Command Airways guys... and had flown those aircraft since delivery in France. I learned alot from the likes of ED V. and company. It was sorta the same way when I was learning to fly the Herc... the old 0-4's and 0-5's that had been around since Vietnam really could fly that plane...Vic Powers comes to mind... he was LTC in our Wing, and that muther taught me how to fly the most agressive assault approaches and landing of any instructor I ever flew with. There just isnt any substitute for lots of hands on flying experience.

 

Probably a dumb question but does the Dash 8 200 have a jump seat in the cockpit?

 

Not stupid, but yes it does. You guys are making miss the the dash, 5 and half years in the 100, 200, and finally the 400. The 400 could not come down like the 1's and 2's because the FADEC controlled the props, but the mother could sure climb. To bad the schedule and financial upside of the Dash was not what it is with the Big Boeing.

 

It's cockpit is quite spacious with lots of room for the J/S.

I loved the Dash 8's landing abilities. Land and taxi-off with out touching the brakes in under 2000' at half flaps (15 degrees)!

It could slow down like no other, however, I hated the insanely low gear and flap speeds, it made it very uncomfortable to slow down (158 VLO, I believe). Forget flaps 35, you'll hang in your harness, the NW is lower than the mains till about 95 kts (making the first taxiway in 1500' is like shooting fish in barrel.) The ATR, on the other hand had a lot higher flap and gear speed and made it a lot more comfortable to slow down. The ATR had pretty respectable short field performance as well. We routinely brought her into 3400' strips in the Caribbean, not bad for a 48,000 lb beast.

I think the Dash 7 outdoes, just about everything for short field performance, I spoke with a Fed that used to fly 'em for Rocky Mountain Airways. With a twinkle in his eye, he spoke of many tales... ref at MLW (50 pax?) with full flaps was somewhere in the low 80's. 8 degree MLS approaches into Steamboat Springs were of no concern.

The ERJ will come down like a meteor at flaps 45 and FI.

I can't speak for the mighty 1900, but if it's similar to the B200's I've flown, it is hands down one of the best flying/handling airframes out there. 1900 has some pretty high ref speeds for a T-prop though. At least it'll out-run a DHC8 and keep up with an ATR 72.

Anyone with Brazilia, or Saab stories?

I would give my left nut for a crack at a Q400.