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Old 03-14-2009 | 09:09 PM
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Like any of us could see traffic from behind our newspapers and crossword puzzles anyway?
No but the TCAS on the IVSI is polarized
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Old 03-14-2009 | 11:54 PM
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I have a pair of polarized Maui Jim's, and they don't cause a problem for me in the ERJ.
I use newspaper, no problems so far, damn someone beat me too it
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Old 03-15-2009 | 11:12 AM
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Not that big planes have 'em yet, but I've seen certain LCD screens through polarized sunglasses disappear. I'd stay away from them.
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Old 03-15-2009 | 04:23 PM
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I wore polarized lenses while instructing and also as an FO. I don't believe the FAA's assertion that it will prevent you from "See & Avoid". I always see the other traffic just fine. Yes, some aircraft you can see weird purple colors on the windshield and some instruments sometimes look a shade different - I feel they enhance my vision by eliminating glare off of shiny objects. I have been in a lot of different aircraft and have yet to have a problem seeing out or seeing any of the instruments or seeing traffic. I could not fly with out them. I'm just that used to them and their benefits - even if they haven't been TSO'd by the FAA - I will continue to wear them.
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Old 03-15-2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot
I wore polarized lenses while instructing and also as an FO. I don't believe the FAA's assertion that it will prevent you from "See & Avoid".
Yes, your vast experience far exceeds the folks who have been writing about this stuff since polarizing lenses first appeared. What you mean to say is that in spite of all the safety related data that is available, and in spite of FAA written guidance on the matter... you, on your own, have decided that it doesn't apply to you, and that you will continue to do things as you see fit.

Think back to your instructing days... there is a name for that type of behavior.

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I always see the other traffic just fine.
So, the one time that you don't... can we assume it was your glasses then?

Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot
Yes, some aircraft you can see weird purple colors on the windshield and some instruments sometimes look a shade different

and you continue to wear them.................... why again ?


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- I feel they enhance my vision by eliminating glare off of shiny objects.
A pair of non polarizing lenses will do the same thing... and you'll still look cool....

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I could not fly with out them.
That is a very scary statement. Have you considered signing yourself in for more sim training?

Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot
I will continue to wear them.
There's that pesky hazardous attitude thing again....
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Old 03-15-2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jeeps
Not that big planes have 'em yet, but I've seen certain LCD screens through polarized sunglasses disappear. I'd stay away from them.
The screens in the CRJ go blank with them.
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Old 03-15-2009 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
Yes, your vast experience far exceeds the folks who have been writing about this stuff since polarizing lenses first appeared. What you mean to say is that in spite of all the safety related data that is available, and in spite of FAA written guidance on the matter... you, on your own, have decided that it doesn't apply to you, and that you will continue to do things as you see fit.

Think back to your instructing days... there is a name for that type of behavior.



So, the one time that you don't... can we assume it was your glasses then?




and you continue to wear them.................... why again ?




A pair of non polarizing lenses will do the same thing... and you'll still look cool....



That is a very scary statement. Have you considered signing yourself in for more sim training?



There's that pesky hazardous attitude thing again....
Hmmm. Let's talk attitude here, from someone WITH vast experience. Have YOU ever tried them? I've been wearing them for over 30 years with no problems. Next...
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Old 03-15-2009 | 09:04 PM
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Ahhh, surprise surprise - a cutting, acidic post from Mason32.

I've been wearing them while flying for 10 years. And driving. And sitting on the beach. And hiking. And every other phase of life. I've flown over the Caribbean wearing them and the desert southwest. They have not had any impact on my vision at all - not one iota. Just because they color the windshield a little purple on a few planes doesn't mean I can't see out of it. Not any worse than the cracks that populate the windshields of the majority of planes I fly. Its a very faint purple color that causes no impairment.

Furthermore, See & Avoid is BS and I don't know many airline pilots that could argue otherwise. I've been in the jumspeat of a hell of a lot of airlines on a hell of a lot of equipment - and 99% of the time the seats go back and the magazines come out. We heavily rely on radar and TCAS - I doubt seriously that my sunglasses are an impediment to airline safety.

Its about as serious a safety problem as wearing non-TSO'd headsets while flying. I've done that too.

I'm sure Mason32 follows every rule written in his FOM and set forth by the FAA without violation. The bulk of the rest of us aren't as conscientious.

Experience has shown me that my sunglasses are safe and effective.

Thanks for the attitude, I needed it.
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Old 03-15-2009 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot
I wore polarized lenses while instructing and also as an FO. I don't believe the FAA's assertion that it will prevent you from "See & Avoid". I always see the other traffic just fine. Yes, some aircraft you can see weird purple colors on the windshield and some instruments sometimes look a shade different

I'm just that used to them and their benefits - even if they haven't been TSO'd by the FAA - I will continue to wear them.

Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot
… Just because they color the windshield a little purple on a few planes doesn't mean I can't see out of it. Not any worse than the cracks that populate the windshields of the majority of planes I fly. Its a very faint purple color that causes no impairment.

Furthermore, See & Avoid is BS and I don't know many airline pilots that could argue otherwise. I've been in the jumspeat of a hell of a lot of airlines on a hell of a lot of equipment - and 99% of the time the seats go back and the magazines come out. We heavily rely on radar and TCAS - I doubt seriously that my sunglasses are an impediment to airline safety.

Its about as serious a safety problem as wearing non-TSO'd headsets while flying. I've done that too


Pontius, you are right, rules, procedures, TSOs, etc. is just unnecessary garbage... Doesn’t apply to real pilots…

I like my polarized Serengetis but the minute I found out polarized lenses will occasionally affect a person's color perception... well, that was good enough for me... Then again, I'm not as sharp and invincible as you are... ...and I mean it respectfully...

Iceman - You're dangerous...

Pontius - is that you?

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Old 03-16-2009 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wizepilot
Hmmm. Let's talk attitude here, from someone WITH vast experience. Have YOU ever tried them? I've been wearing them for over 30 years with no problems. Next...
Gotchya beat.

just because you haven't yet experienced a problem doesn't mean it can't/won't happen. They are telling us, that under certain conditions these things are NG.

The solution is fairly simple; to wear a pair that won't cause, or doesn't have the potential to cause these problems. They look and function just as well, but you may not be able to use them for as wide a variety of activities outside the cockpit.

We have enough issues to manage on a regular basis, setting ourselves up knowingly ahead of time is just stupid.
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