As far as I can see in the contract, it says that once you are assigned a reserve window for the month, that scheduling will not change it. A buddy of mine just called and said that they have switched him from an A4 to an A3 later this month. Has anyone else ran into this?

They do that all the time. And yes, they can do that if they pre-notify you.

24-33 says "Each reserve period will begin and end in the same day. Once published, the start time of a reserve period will not be changed during the bid period."

Does that mean that once the windows are published in the bid packet that they will not change the duration of each reserve window for that month, or does it mean that once you are given the A4 reserve window for the entire month, that you will not be changed to an A3 window?

Look at Section 24-34 (Number 5). It talks about how they can reassign you from one reserve window to another as long as they notify you PRIOR.

They can't change your window after you've already started in that window (you must be pre-notified).
They can't change a window to an earlier window unless it is the first day in a string of reserve days.

They change windows all the time, especially between long call/short call (that is contractually required). They can change short call windows to make a trip fit (no A3 reserves left, trip starts at 745am, so change an A4 to A3)

I dont get where the company is getting 300 pilots furloughed.... This displacement bid only displaces 149 CA's and the bid shows a lack of FO's in CVG by like 50 on the 50-seater and like 20 short on the 70/90, which once the shotty math is done gives us around 70-80 excess positions... My guess is 70-80 furloughs?

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Did you call up your scheduling buddies to figure that out...


Yes, It is 24-34 #5. I typed a little too fast there...

No Timmy quit, remember?

I fixed my post for you too


Anyone sitting ready tomorrow?

Follow me here for a minute. 150 Downgrades DOES NOT mean only 150 furloughs.

If you are overstaffed by 150 CA's than you are also overstaffed by 150 FO's. To get rid of your 150 overstaffed CA's you downgrade them to FO. Now you are overstaffed by 300 FO's

I see what you guys are saying with the numbers listed on the bid and I hope for all of our sakes they will keep the FO side way overstaffed. Based on the bid they will have twice as many FO's in JFK than CA's. It also has 100 more CVG FO's than CVG CA's.

My only reasoning for this is maybe they are keeping the FO's on staff because they figure it is cheaper than keeping CA's on staff. That way in case the flying does come back in a hurry they wont have to put a bunch of guys back through the entire training process.