Generally there are more FO's that leave through attrition. I wonder if they look at it this way so if they do furlough 300 pilots, then some quit they won't have to wait until they get the furloughed guy back on line to take his place.

When calling a reserve, does the 45 minute before departure in domicile from the ops manual apply?

Holy cow CornDog! My head is starting to hurt...:p

Just to be save, when your little thing on your belt goes 'beep, beep, beep", just call the friendly folks over at (s)crew scheduling and they will tell you when you have to be there. Have fun!

Got to give it to you. That was good!

can u post some #'s like CA&FO per base

if your fat 150 CA but you have 2 times more FOs then CAs then the 300# seems a little off

what I posted was a straight up need to reduce by 150 CA causes a furlough number of 300.

however based on the displacement bid it seems that the company has decide to keep on a large amount of FO's

i.e.

JFK CA positions will be reduced to 98. The company is saying that there will be 200 FO positions in JFK.

CVG CA positions will be reduced to 347. FO's 469

why keeping such an excess of FO's??? That is everyones question right now. It a good thing for the pilot group because it means alot less furloughs.

We have Always had more Fo's than Captains. 150 Captains does not equal 150 Fo's. I don't understand it, but it has always been that way.

From what I read in the Piper memo, company is not able to furlough until ALPA comes to the table and deals are struck regarding early outs and voluntaries. After that, bidding on early outs and voluntaries, and then the company furloughs what's left.

I'm not looking at the memo right now, but I got the sense that Piper's hands were tied; he could bump CAs to the right seat and COLA all day, but furloughs were still over the horizon.

And maybe putting 150 captains back on F/O pay is their idea to maintain the attrition rates of the last two years.

It still feels like mandatory furloughs are coming, but I'd love to have a chance to bid voluntary before some junior guy gets my furlough slot.

but if you look at the min/max fo load, even if you add the 150 captains to that fo list we are still within 100. so that is what everyone is confused about.

.
The average Comair Captain has been here 14 years. They will have more vacation weeks each year than the average F/O.

On the other hand, how many F/Os are doing line checks and recurrent rides? All those guys are Captains. On the list, but not flying. So we should have more captains than F/Os from that standpoint.

Some guys would have you believe the senior ALPA pilots (captains??:confused:) are all at conventions, eating steak and lobster on UL instead of flying. So there's more unproductive captains.