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Old 09-24-2007 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
Ha, well, let's just say that they're so violent that half the time the simulator motion base would get overloaded and we'd come crashing down to the floor!
Thats because you are supposed to recover at the shaker.............
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Old 09-24-2007 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Thats because you are supposed to recover at the shaker.............
Well where's the fun in that?

Actually training at my airline is very good. It's based on an a person with previous experience in the CRJ, so it's a bit advanced at times. But nothing that people can't get through. It's not the standard old style let's teach you everything then test you on everything. It's the newer style of let me teach you this, test you, then we'll move onto something else.
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Old 09-24-2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Thats because you are supposed to recover at the shaker.............
ADVANCE THE PL'S CALL FOR MAX POWER KEEP THE PITCH UP SO YOU DON'T SINK AND START ASKING FOR THE CLEANUP!
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Old 09-24-2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
Well where's the fun in that?

Actually training at my airline is very good. It's based on an a person with previous experience in the CRJ, so it's a bit advanced at times. But nothing that people can't get through. It's not the standard old style let's teach you everything then test you on everything. It's the newer style of let me teach you this, test you, then we'll move onto something else.
yeah a good training department means a ton, I hear Eagles is tough, we had two wash out but our training department is truly one of a kind, they were great
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Old 09-24-2007 | 06:11 PM
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My SIM partner only lost 50 feet after getting the pusher. I still don't know how the hell he did it.

As far as quiting before being let go I can only say this... I know a guy who had "left" two different airlines durring his training. Each one he had an excuse for. Instead of being honest about his experience and abilities at the time, he made excuses. It is very easy to see through that BS. And when the PRIA paperwork came in, the instructors comments made it very clear. Just make sure you are honest and focus on what you learned and how much you have grown since then in your next interview. I think most people would much rather hire honest pilots that have struggled in the past than excuse makers that can't learn.

I would agree though....next time go down fighting. Everyone struggles at some point. Let them tell you your not going to make it. The instructors have a much better insight into your abilities than you might think, and 9 times out of 10 they are much tougher on you than the checkairmen.

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Old 09-24-2007 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wtn0014
Do future employers view someone resigning from training because of bad performance the same as failing out? I resigned(though not technically employed yet) the other day because I was not flying well in the simulator.
well you know what the thing is.. when you're not doing so hot in training, companies will usually give you a chance to resign rather than fail you outright. all the airlines know this, so I think if they heard that an applicant resigned during 121 training, they will at least suspect that you were "asked to resign" aka failed out (even if you technically didnt.) even if you resigned on your own accord without being asked to. what I'm saying is, if you resigned because you were asked to, your records won't say "asked to resign." it will say, "resigned." and it says the same thing "resigned" if you resigned without being asked to. there is no distinction between the two on paper, so it's easiest to assume you were asked to resign, which is practically same thing as failing out.
basically you would have to do a good job of explaining it in person and convince them why they should pay to put you through training again.
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Old 09-24-2007 | 08:17 PM
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Technically, you can't resign from a place that you were never employed at. Symantics, I know, but it could work in your favor. The question is, will it show up on your PRIA record if you were A) never employed and B) didn't even finish a training cycle?
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Old 09-24-2007 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeB525
Tell me about CRJ stalls. This sounds interesting.
I would call it a drag demo more than a stall. However, there pretty hard. Nothing in the CRJ sim was even as close to be "hard" as a V1 cut in the E120!
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Old 09-25-2007 | 07:08 AM
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One option the OP might consider is building your time up to 135 mins and work for six months, to a year, flying freight. It's a good confidence builder and would be a base from which to "start over". You won't have to worry about large sim training, either.

I've done stalls in a level D sim, too. They don't spend a lot of time on it. You just have to stick with the profile and hope for the best. I can see how a guy could sort of develop a block with it and struggle. Then, throw in a yelling instructor, and a guy could pretty much be a goner.

People overcome all sorts of adversity in this career. DUI's, FAR violation's, ect. You have to put time and a positive work history between you and the event.
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Old 09-25-2007 | 07:47 AM
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de727ups, is that really you in that jc link??
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