Originally Posted by newarkblows

toilet your views on "well i will get mine attitude" is kind of disgusting. Its like running head first into a tree that you cant see... keep dreaming about a nice contract, CO giving up scope (tell me again how you dont want it! it makes me laugh), more 70 seaters.... and then when you do go to CO you might be furloughed because of some lowball bidder like MESA and their "lawyers" dangle just the right amount of propoganda to ease scope.

Originally Posted by SharkyBN584

What surprises me is how much of that rocky startup is attributed to CHQ. I flew that codeshare the first couple of months of it's inception and the support from ground crews at almost every station was non-exsistent at best, borderline hostile at worst. It has since improved, but their willingness to work with the crews is absolutely horrible.

Case in point: The weight restriction. CAL will just start rebooking people without even talking to the crew to see what we can actually carry based on what gets loaded in the back. They reassigned 10 people when we could have taken a full boat without ever talking to us. The only reason I found out is cuz I called Ops asking where the other 10 people were since we were told to expect a full flight. But of course, those reassignments just get coded as CHQ being weight restricted.

I could careless what they say about me in the break room behind my back. For right now, I have to work with them and they have to work with me. The only way that's gonna work is if we're both trying to get a good product out. Funny how CHQ's "rocky start" at CAL is nowhere near reflected in their operations for AA, DAL, US, UAL, or F9. I'm not saying we're perfect...but neither is the CAL side and they're doing a lot more to f*ck us then help us.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

Just FYI, most of the CAL ground personnel refer to CHQ as the "special needs" airline.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

Ughhh....not this noise again. We worked with the hardstands in IAH for YEARS. You guys whined about it for a few months and CAL built you those sheds. Happy? Just FYI, most of the CAL ground personnel refer to CHQ as the "special needs" airline. Seriously though, I think it comes down to frustration from everyone in the CAL system. Kellner is not well liked (I've heard him referred to as "worse than Lorenzo" for those of you who know what means). The general feel here is that CAL had a good system in place with ExpressJet and Mainline and Larry is f*cking it up with all this CHQ mess. Ooooooh well.

Originally Posted by POPA

Really? Most of the ground crews I talked to down there said, "Thank God you guys are here."
Oh well, you suckas can have IAH. I'll miss the overnights, but I sure won't miss the operations.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

Probably mistook your ERJ for ExpressJet

Originally Posted by SharkyBN584

Hell, I've worked off hardstands before CAL came along. It's no big shock. The big shock is waiting around for 45 minutes to get a single person near your airplane. Take your frustration out on Larry. He's the one who took your flying. He's the one who put it up for bid. He's the one that awarded it to CHQ. Basically what you're saying is "Well, you guys bid on flying so it's all your damn fault". That makes sense.

Originally Posted by POPA

Now that I think about it, they probably just meant me in particular.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

Nope. Didn't take MY flying. He took his CAL's flying and put it up for bid and ended up with a carrier that was not prepared to handle it and that does not do business in a way that Larry is accustomed to. Its his right as CEO. There's no law against being a moron.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

Ughhh....not this noise again. We worked with the hardstands in IAH for YEARS. You guys whined about it for a few months and CAL built you those sheds. Happy? Just FYI, most of the CAL ground personnel refer to CHQ as the "special needs" airline. Seriously though, I think it comes down to frustration from everyone in the CAL system. Kellner is not well liked (I've heard him referred to as "worse than Lorenzo" for those of you who know what means). The general feel here is that CAL had a good system in place with ExpressJet and Mainline and Larry is f*cking it up with all this CHQ mess. Ooooooh well.